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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, oupton@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com
Subject: Re: Broken udelay() on KVM host with a vcpu loaded
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 13:52:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ecmoeonz.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aY8P-ccWbKobEL-d@willie-the-truck>

On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:50:17 +0000,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 07:54:36PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 15:58:14 +0000,
> > Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ouch, it does seem that the SET_ONE_REG stuff allows to mess with that
> > > value _out of vcpu context_, so yeah userspace could change the value
> > > while a vcpu thread is preempted in the middle of a udelay loop ...
> > 
> > I don't think so. You can only do that on the vcpu fd, and if the vcpu
> > is loaded, it means that you are already holding the vcpu mutex. And
> > if you do that from the vcpu thread, then you already have done a
> > vcpu_put().
> 
> Just working this through, I think you're right that the vCPU mutex
> saves us here (thanks!), although that's because it's held across the
> duration of the KVM_RUN ioctl() and not because of the vcpu_put() (which
> would run off the back of the preempt notifier if we were preempted
> anyway).

Duh, yes. Sorry about the confusing explanation. it was perfectly
clear in my head, I swear!

> It would be good to capture that in a comment if we go with your
> approach of using the virtual counter on the host.

Sure, I'll add a comment to that effect and post it shortly.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Jazz isn't dead. It just smells funny.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10 12:27 Broken udelay() on KVM host with a vcpu loaded Quentin Perret
2026-02-10 12:52 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-10 15:34   ` Will Deacon
2026-02-10 15:58     ` Quentin Perret
2026-02-10 19:54       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-13 11:50         ` Will Deacon
2026-02-13 13:52           ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-02-13 14:05         ` Quentin Perret
2026-02-10 19:46     ` Marc Zyngier

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