From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260C4C432BE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mm01.cs.columbia.edu (mm01.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.11.253]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C68C60EFF for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:57:35 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 8C68C60EFF Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lists.cs.columbia.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mm01.cs.columbia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DC14B128; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.cs.columbia.edu Authentication-Results: mm01.cs.columbia.edu (amavisd-new); dkim=softfail (fail, message has been altered) header.i=@infradead.org Received: from mm01.cs.columbia.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mm01.cs.columbia.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ao-xGjKouX+d; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mm01.cs.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mm01.cs.columbia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16A34B0C0; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mm01.cs.columbia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4D94B0A5 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.cs.columbia.edu Received: from mm01.cs.columbia.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mm01.cs.columbia.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KPUstyP3Rj7p for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from desiato.infradead.org (desiato.infradead.org [90.155.92.199]) by mm01.cs.columbia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB7014B09C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:57:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=desiato.20200630; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=NSdJTnTrDORwb+LwDd1YsYwMgPCJRxx0pXYK8FlAauE=; b=Fa7lAXZuZMGlhMkvCLlAaInQ0M LvZMAI9dgp92KcFz4u2w541+/Nu67i2Ea3rAZpKD6Q1P9ILjKx8E7vJPC9Yy4BHzufUafcmzb+2zu XEqetUQrDWVmWgUJbeWVLi3VrFACkcynBo/GAIrkEDlonwYXZkgrnKNPnvuRXhzSenXsmorxKXv3b UaLmP8193HgPXArb5Wp1c/mrxTLlf/21JEFOup9O58miZONiwbcuapmO9GWG87OVfsWhj7CHiSkGX N5n6bqMpN0VhS93yWvq33V/48j5w+oHy6eCsh396wVtLrGJfjfA+JtKu/NF0o3UbeTizVS7b6v5Pe Ifw0PqQQ==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by desiato.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mJdHk-00DX6q-CH; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:56:48 +0000 Received: from hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net [192.168.1.225]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06096300DEF; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:56:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA39829CFAC0B; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:56:45 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Sean Christopherson Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/15] perf: Track guest callbacks on a per-CPU basis Message-ID: References: <20210827005718.585190-1-seanjc@google.com> <20210827005718.585190-6-seanjc@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Wanpeng Li , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Shishkin , Catalin Marinas , Guo Ren , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Vincent Chen , Jiri Olsa , Boris Ostrovsky , Stefano Stabellini , xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Marc Zyngier , Joerg Roedel , x86@kernel.org, linux-csky@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, Ingo Molnar , Like Xu , Albert Ou , Zhu Lingshan , Will Deacon , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Borislav Petkov , Greentime Hu , Paul Walmsley , Namhyung Kim , Thomas Gleixner , Artem Kashkanov , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Jim Mattson , Juergen Gross , Nick Hu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, Palmer Dabbelt , Paolo Bonzini , Vitaly Kuznetsov X-BeenThere: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Where KVM/ARM decisions are made List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: kvmarm-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu Sender: kvmarm-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 02:49:50PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 05:57:08PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > > Use a per-CPU pointer to track perf's guest callbacks so that KVM can set > > > the callbacks more precisely and avoid a lurking NULL pointer dereference. > > > > I'm completely failing to see how per-cpu helps anything here... > > It doesn't help until KVM is converted to set the per-cpu pointer in flows that > are protected against preemption, and more specifically when KVM only writes to > the pointer from the owning CPU. So the 'problem' I have with this is that sane (!KVM using) people, will still have to suffer that load, whereas with the static_call() we patch in an 'xor %rax,%rax' and only have immediate code flow. > Ignoring static call for the moment, I don't see how the unreg side can be safe > using a bare single global pointer. There is no way for KVM to prevent an NMI > from running in parallel on a different CPU. If there's a more elegant solution, > especially something that can be backported, e.g. an rcu-protected pointer, I'm > all for it. I went down the per-cpu path because it allowed for cleanups in KVM, > but similar cleanups can be done without per-cpu perf callbacks. If all the perf_guest_cbs dereferences are with preemption disabled (IRQs disabled, IRQ context, NMI context included), then the sequence: WRITE_ONCE(perf_guest_cbs, NULL); synchronize_rcu(); Ensures that all prior observers of perf_guest_csb will have completed and future observes must observe the NULL value. _______________________________________________ kvmarm mailing list kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm