From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Basant Kumar Dwivedi <Basant.KumarDwivedi@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>,
Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
Alan Hayward <alan.hayward@arm.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
Salil Akerkar <Salil.Akerkar@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 10/40] arm64/sme: Basic enumeration support
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:10:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhQb6r0mVSYDHowo@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhPnCx+Rajjverjc@arm.com>
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:24:59PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 03:01:03PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> > There's going to be a ordering/clarity issue whatever way round we do it
> > - the FA64 feature bit is in a different feature register to the main
> > SME feature bitfield and it's not as abundantly clear as might be ideal
> > that it will have been sanitised when we're getting callbacks for the
> > main SME feature, there's an awful lot of sharp edges with this code.
> > Having things this way round felt more idiomatic to me.
> You may want to add a comment in the cpu_feature[] array that it should
> be placed after SME.
Sure.
> > We do run the kernel in streaming mode - entering the kernel through a
> > syscall or preemption will not change the streaming mode state, and we
> > need to be in streaming mode in order to save or restore the register
> > state for streaming mode. In particular we need FA64 enabled for EL1 in
> > order to context switch FFR when in streaming mode, without it we'll
> > generate an exception when we execute the rdffr or wrffr. We don't do
> > any real floating point work in streaming mode but we absolutely need to
> > run in streaming mode and only exit streaming mode when restoring a
> > context where it is disabled, when using floating point in the kernel or
> > when idling the CPU.
> So, IIUC, for Linux it is mandatory that FEAT_SME_FA64 is supported,
> otherwise we won't be able to enable SME. Does the architecture say
The feature is not mandatory and we do not require it for Linux. It is
expected that many implementations will choose to not support FA64.
The only impact it has on the kernel is that if it's present then we
need to enable it for each EL and then context switch FFR in streaming
mode, the code is there to do that conditionally already. We'd also
have to take it into account if we were to run streaming mode algorithms
in the kernel but if we ever do so that's just an additional feature
check when choosing to run such code.
> this feature as optional? Which A64 instructions are not available if
> FA64 is disabled? I hope it's only the SVE ones but I thought we can
> still do load/store of the state even with FA64 disabled.
There's a rather large subset of mostly FPSIMD and some SVE instructions
(including those for accessing FFR which is why we don't need to context
switch it in streaming mode), you can see a full list in appendix F1 of
the SME specification.
This is actually a bit awkward for not disabling streaming mode when we
do a syscall since the disabled instructions include the FPSMID mov
vector, vector instruction which we currently use to zero the high bits
of the Z registers. That issue goes away if the optimisations I've got
for relaxed flushing of the non-shared SVE state that we discussed in
relation to syscall-abi get merged, though it'd still be there if we add
a sysctl to force flushing. This is a solvable problem though, even if
we have to use a less efficient sequence to flush in streaming mode.
> Anyway, if we can't even context switch without FA64 while in streaming
> mode, I think we should move the check in the main SME .matches function
> and enable it in sme_kernel_enable(), no need for an additional feature.
Given that it's optional and we need to check for it at runtime in order
to context switch it seems sensible to use the cpufeature infrastructure
for the detection.
> I think we should also update booting.rst to require that the FA64 is
> enabled at EL2 and EL3.
That's there already since d198c77b7fab13d4 ("arm64: Document boot
requirements for FEAT_SME_FA64").
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2022-02-07 15:20 [PATCH v11 00/40] arm64/sme: Initial support for the Scalable Matrix Extension Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 01/40] arm64: Define CPACR_EL1_FPEN similarly to other floating point controls Mark Brown
2022-02-10 11:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 02/40] arm64: Always use individual bits in CPACR floating point enables Mark Brown
2022-02-10 11:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 03/40] arm64: cpufeature: Always specify and use a field width for capabilities Mark Brown
2022-02-10 11:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-10 11:55 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-03-01 22:56 ` Qian Cai
2022-03-02 10:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-03-02 11:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-03-02 13:02 ` Mark Brown
2022-03-02 12:58 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 04/40] kselftest/arm64: Remove local ARRAY_SIZE() definitions Mark Brown
2022-02-07 23:45 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-10 15:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 05/40] kselftest/arm64: signal: Allow tests to be incompatible with features Mark Brown
2022-02-07 23:54 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 15:32 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-10 15:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 06/40] arm64/sme: Provide ABI documentation for SME Mark Brown
2022-02-08 0:10 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 15:46 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-08 18:38 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-08 18:48 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 19:00 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-10 15:12 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-10 16:18 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-10 16:46 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-10 18:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-10 19:45 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-11 17:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-11 18:13 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-14 18:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-14 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 07/40] arm64/sme: System register and exception syndrome definitions Mark Brown
2022-02-10 18:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 08/40] arm64/sme: Manually encode SME instructions Mark Brown
2022-02-10 18:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 09/40] arm64/sme: Early CPU setup for SME Mark Brown
2022-02-21 11:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 10/40] arm64/sme: Basic enumeration support Mark Brown
2022-02-21 14:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-21 15:01 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-21 19:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-21 23:10 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2022-02-22 12:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-21 16:07 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-02-21 19:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/40] arm64/sme: Identify supported SME vector lengths at boot Mark Brown
2022-02-21 15:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-21 23:39 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/40] arm64/sme: Implement sysctl to set the default vector length Mark Brown
2022-02-21 16:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 13/40] arm64/sme: Implement vector length configuration prctl()s Mark Brown
2022-02-21 16:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 14/40] arm64/sme: Implement support for TPIDR2 Mark Brown
2022-02-21 16:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 15/40] arm64/sme: Implement SVCR context switching Mark Brown
2022-02-21 18:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 16/40] arm64/sme: Implement streaming SVE " Mark Brown
2022-02-22 12:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-22 13:42 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 17/40] arm64/sme: Implement ZA " Mark Brown
2022-02-22 12:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 18/40] arm64/sme: Implement traps and syscall handling for SME Mark Brown
2022-02-22 17:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-22 18:16 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 19/40] arm64/sme: Disable ZA and streaming mode when handling signals Mark Brown
2022-02-22 18:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 20/40] arm64/sme: Implement streaming SVE signal handling Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 21/40] arm64/sme: Implement ZA " Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 22/40] arm64/sme: Implement ptrace support for streaming mode SVE registers Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 23/40] arm64/sme: Add ptrace support for ZA Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 24/40] arm64/sme: Disable streaming mode and ZA when flushing CPU state Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 25/40] arm64/sme: Save and restore streaming mode over EFI runtime calls Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 26/40] KVM: arm64: Hide SME system registers from guests Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 27/40] KVM: arm64: Trap SME usage in guest Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 28/40] KVM: arm64: Handle SME host state when running guests Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 29/40] arm64/sme: Provide Kconfig for SME Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:41 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:20 ` [PATCH v11 30/40] kselftest/arm64: Add manual encodings for SME instructions Mark Brown
2022-02-07 23:57 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-23 15:41 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 31/40] kselftest/arm64: sme: Add SME support to vlset Mark Brown
2022-02-08 0:15 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 15:51 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 32/40] kselftest/arm64: Add tests for TPIDR2 Mark Brown
2022-02-08 0:23 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 16:19 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 33/40] kselftest/arm64: Extend vector configuration API tests to cover SME Mark Brown
2022-02-08 0:24 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-23 15:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 34/40] kselftest/arm64: sme: Provide streaming mode SVE stress test Mark Brown
2022-02-08 0:40 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 16:23 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 35/40] kselftest/arm64: signal: Handle ZA signal context in core code Mark Brown
2022-02-08 1:01 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 16:29 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 36/40] kselftest/arm64: Add stress test for SME ZA context switching Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 37/40] kselftest/arm64: signal: Add SME signal handling tests Mark Brown
2022-02-08 1:08 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-23 15:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 38/40] kselftest/arm64: Add streaming SVE to SVE ptrace tests Mark Brown
2022-02-08 1:13 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-23 15:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 39/40] kselftest/arm64: Add coverage for the ZA ptrace interface Mark Brown
2022-02-08 1:20 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-23 15:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-07 15:21 ` [PATCH v11 40/40] kselftest/arm64: Add SME support to syscall ABI test Mark Brown
2022-02-08 1:52 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-08 18:15 ` Mark Brown
2022-02-08 18:50 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-23 15:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-02-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v11 00/40] arm64/sme: Initial support for the Scalable Matrix Extension Shuah Khan
2022-02-25 15:50 ` Will Deacon
2022-02-25 15:52 ` Will Deacon
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