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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: Per Larsen <perl@immunant.com>
Cc: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>,
	maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, perlarsen@google.com,
	ayrton@google.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: support optional calls of FF-A v1.2
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 13:43:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQNrh1BG8KSkLOHg@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96171283-6f2a-45b5-b889-be1bee91678c@immunant.com>

Hi Per,

>
> On 10/29/25 2:36 PM, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > >
> > > On 10/28/25 21:06, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > > > Hi Ben,
> > > >
> > > > > > To use TPM drvier which uses CRB over FF-A with FFA_DIRECT_REQ2,
> > > > > > support the FF-A v1.2's optinal calls by querying whether
> > > > > > SPMC supports those.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c | 19 ++++++++++++++++++-
> > > > > >   1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
> > > > > > index 0ae87ff61758..9ded1c6369b9 100644
> > > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
> > > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
> > > > > > @@ -646,6 +646,22 @@ static void do_ffa_mem_reclaim(struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs *res,
> > > > > >   		ffa_to_smccc_res(res, ret);
> > > > > >   }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +static bool ffa_1_2_optional_calls_supported(u64 func_id)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs res;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	if (!smp_load_acquire(&has_version_negotiated) ||
> > > > > > +		(FFA_MINOR_VERSION(FFA_VERSION_1_2) < 2))
> > > > > > +		return false;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	arm_smccc_1_2_smc(&(struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs) {
> > > > > > +		.a0 = FFA_FEATURES,
> > > > > > +		.a1 = func_id,
> > > > > > +	}, &res);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	return res.a0 == FFA_SUCCESS;
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >   /*
> > > > > >    * Is a given FFA function supported, either by forwarding on directly
> > > > > >    * or by handling at EL2?
> > > > > > @@ -678,12 +694,13 @@ static bool ffa_call_supported(u64 func_id)
> > > > > >   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_SET:
> > > > > >   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_GET:
> > > > > >   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_INFO_GET:
> > > > > > +		return false;
> > > > > >   	/* Optional interfaces added in FF-A 1.2 */
> > > > > >   	case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2:		/* Optional per 7.5.1 */
> > > > > >   	case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_RESP2:		/* Optional per 7.5.1 */
> > > > > >   	case FFA_CONSOLE_LOG:			/* Optional per 13.1: not in Table 13.1 */
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at table 13.54 in the FF-A 1.2 spec FFA_CONSOLE_LOG is only supported in secure FF-A
> > > > > instances and not from the normal world.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. in that case, we can return false for FFA_CONSOLE_LOG
> > > > unconditionally.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >   	case FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET_REGS:	/* Optional for virtual instances per 13.1 */
> > > > > > -		return false;
> > > > > > +		return ffa_1_2_optional_calls_supported(func_id);
> > > > > >   	}
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think that an smc call here is the right thing to do. This changes this from a light
> > > > > weight deny list to an extra smc call for each ffa_msg_send_direct_req2 from the driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead, I would expect this patch just to remove FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 from the deny list
> > > > > and rely on the TPM driver to use FFA_FEATURES to check whether it's supported.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, just this change:
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -679,7 +679,6 @@ static bool ffa_call_supported(u64 func_id)
> > > > >          case FFA_NOTIFICATION_GET:
> > > > >          case FFA_NOTIFICATION_INFO_GET:
> > > > >          /* Optional interfaces added in FF-A 1.2 */
> > > > > -       case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2:          /* Optional per 7.5.1 */
> > > > >          case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_RESP2:         /* Optional per 7.5.1 */
> > > > >          case FFA_CONSOLE_LOG:                   /* Optional per 13.1: not in Table 13.1 */
> > > > >          case FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET_REGS:       /* Optional for virtual instances per 13.1 */
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > Nope. I think you don't think you miss anything and
> > > > I also think about it.
> > > >
> > > > But, I'm not sure about "support" means in the pkvm about FF-A.
> > > > Anyway unless the SPMC doesn't support the specific FF-A ABI,
> > > > I don't know that's meaningful to return "TRUE" in here.
> > > > IOW, suppose pkvm returns supports of  FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2
> > > > but user receive when it calls FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 with NOT SUPPORTED.
> > >
> > > As I understand it, the ffa_call_supported() is used in two places:
> > > 1. To return NOT SUPPORTED to an FFA_FEATURE call for ffa calls that are
> > > on the deny list.
> > > 2. To block ffa calls if they are on the deny list.
> > >
> > > For both your patch and just removing FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 from the
> > > denylist I think the behaviour is the same.
> > >
> > > If FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 is not supported at the spmc then:
> > > a) an FFA_FEATURE call will return not supported
> > > b) an FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 will return not supported
> > >
> >
> > Right! I've missed the FFA_FEATURE handles via default_host_smc_handler().
> > As you said, it just a deny list.
> >
> > Thanks. I'll change it.
> Sorry to jump into the discussion very late. I uploaded a patch set which
> adds support for the FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 interface which was originally
> developed for the Android common kernels:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251030-host-direct-messages-v1-0-463e57871c8f@google.com/T/#t
>
>
> Since there appears to be an upstream use case for this functionality, it
> might be a good building block for the present patch set.

No worries and thanks for sharing.
I'll take a look and let me rebase this patch upon your one.

Thanks.

--
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

      reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 19:17 [PATCH 0/2] use TPM device with CRB over FF-A when kernel boot with pkvm Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-27 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: fix FF-A call failure when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-31  8:09   ` Sebastian Ene
2025-10-31 10:08     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-31 10:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-10-31 11:11         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-27 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: support optional calls of FF-A v1.2 Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-28 10:26   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-28 21:06     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-29  9:49       ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-29 13:36         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-30 13:29           ` Per Larsen
2025-10-30 13:43             ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]

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