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From: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Wei-Lin Chang <weilin.chang@arm.com>,
	Wang Han <wanghan@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] KVM: arm64: Reduce overhead of full S2 teardown
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:19:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqnSdjE9puG1fsVL@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <865x086yhr.wl-maz@kernel.org>

Hey,

On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 09:14:24AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Another vCPU can therefore still use that shadow S2. The write lock
> > excludes software page-table updates, not hardware table walks.
> > The following interleaving is allowed:
> > 
> >   vCPU B / hardware walker        vCPU A
> >   ------------------------        ----------------------------
> >   Holds an old reference to T
> >                                   Clears parent, skips TLBI
> >                                   Drops T's last reference
> >                                   T is reused by the allocator
> >   Accesses T via the old reference
> >                                   Performs final VMID-wide TLBI
> >
> > The final flush barriers cannot retroactively protect a table that
> > has already been freed and reused.
> 
> T is a shadow page-table page on the host. How can vcpu B hold a
> reference on that page? It isn't even in the same address space.
> 
> Now, I can see that B could have a VA that *translate through* T, and
> that's rather annoying.
> 
> I'll have a think.

One option that may be worth considering is reusing the KVM_REQ_NESTED_S2_UNMAP
request for emulating VMALLS12E1*. All vCPUs that share the S2 MMU would
be forced to take EL1&0 out of context until the unmap operation
completes, at the expense of an unnecessary kick to vCPUs in a different
MMU context.

A bit hacky but seems more straightforward than wiring up some batching
mechanism for freeing table pages.

Thanks,
Oliver

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-12 10:48 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: arm64: Reduce overhead of full S2 teardown Marc Zyngier
2026-09-12 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: arm64: pgtable: Add Stage-2 unmap without TLBI primitive Marc Zyngier
2026-09-14  8:48   ` Mark Rutland
2026-09-14  9:23     ` Mark Rutland
2026-09-12 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: arm64: MMU: Add kvm_stage2_unmap_all() helper Marc Zyngier
2026-09-12 10:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: arm64: nv: Move full s2_mmu unmap over to kvm_stage2_unmap_all() Marc Zyngier
2026-09-12 10:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: arm64: nv: Move TLBI VMALLS12E1* emulation " Marc Zyngier
2026-09-13 23:27 ` [PATCH 0/4] KVM: arm64: Reduce overhead of full S2 teardown Itaru Kitayama
2026-09-14  6:44 ` Shuai Xue
2026-09-14  8:14   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-14  9:06     ` Shuai Xue
2026-09-15 23:19     ` Oliver Upton [this message]

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