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From: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Don't let a guest overwrite HCRX_EL2.MCE2
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 17:12:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auE90LmMMmac8J1s@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261026082633.2515820-1-maz@kernel.org>

Hey,

On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 08:26:33AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> FEAT_MOPS is fun. CPUs are allowed to implement any of two ways to
> perform the memory copy, and the hypervisor is in charge of hiding
> the difference between implementation when the vcpu migrates from
> one to another. This is unhelpfully signalled with an exception,
> which KVM diligently handles.
> 
> Today, we don't really make a good job of it in the sense that
> if L1 also has the trap bit set, we don't forward the trap as
> the architecture would require us to do.
> 
> But there is no good reason to forward this to the L1 guest if
> L2 generates the "I'm on the wrong implementation". KVM can fix
> it up in place and return to L2 directly, as if the physical CPU
> was able to implement both options.
> 
> Conversely, allowing L1 to clear HCRX_EL2.MCE2 is counter-productive,
> and violates the abstraction that KVM aims to give.

What abstraction? :-)

At least in the non-nested case we can blame the VMM since it's
responsible for scheduling vCPUs on the right pCPUs in a heterogeneous
system.

There is a subtlety here where if the VMM does the right thing with
sched affinities then a MOPS exception taken from L2 is definitely the
L1's fault and architecturally visible.

But oh well. We're obviously oriented towards presenting a homogeneous
set of vCPUs and anything else works by accident.

> Implement this behaviour by never allowing the guest's view of
> HCRX_EL2.MCE2 to make it into the HW, and document that KVM is in
> charge of the A/B handling.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>

Reviewed-by: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>

Thanks,
Oliver

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-28  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-26  8:26 [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Don't let a guest overwrite HCRX_EL2.MCE2 Marc Zyngier
2026-10-26 11:50 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-10-28  0:12 ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2026-10-28  9:38   ` Marc Zyngier

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