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From: Markus Schulz <msc@antzsystem.de>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [LARTC] has anyone tried adsl-optmizer kernel patches
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:11:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511231711.06094.msc@antzsystem.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43846D68.2050709@yahoo.fr>

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 14:23, Sophana Kok wrote:
> Markus Schulz wrote:
> >On Wednesday 16 November 2005 16:03, Andy Furniss wrote:
> >>I use something similar and use ceil 286kbit while synced at
> >> 288kbit without problems.
>
> What thing similar do you use? I don't understand why it is not in
> the kernel already.

sounds like he has calculated the constant overhead for each htb-class 
and set the ceil value to according this. this is equivalent to the 
stuff from adsl-optimizer. in both ways you need to setup classes for 
packets with same average size or it won't work. Most important is the 
class for ACK-only packets cause they have the biggest overhead. 
correct me if i'm wrong.

> >should be easy to patch in. Overhead is only a simple variable which
> >will be added in htb/* module for each paket. Only sign/unsign
> > problem should be considered.
>
> How?

this refers to the possible negativ overhead mentioned from Andy Furniss 
by use of pppoe. But i don't understand whencever the -14 Bytes should 
come from. so i asked for explanation. 
If signed overhead is really needed, it can be easy added into the 
patches you meantioned (http://www.adsl-optimizer.dk/ADSL-optimizer/). 
Cause these patches only add a constant offset to a htb class which 
will be set with modified iproute tc utility.

> The ppp over aal5 atm encapsulation is in almost all adsl lines isn't
> it? Isn't it standard?

yes, i think so. therefore i asked Andy to explain his objection.

> This makes a huge number of lines in the world.
> Are there other patches ?
> or distributions that already include these patches?

Don't know a distribution which already include these patches.
But the effort for a selfmade kernel with these patches is maintainable.

msc
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-23 13:23 [Bulk] Re: [LARTC] has anyone tried adsl-optmizer kernel patches Sophana Kok
2005-11-23 16:11 ` Markus Schulz [this message]
2005-11-24 15:13 ` Andy Furniss
2005-11-24 15:33 ` Andy Furniss
2005-11-24 21:35 ` sophana

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