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From: nix4me <nix4me@cfl.rr.com>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] outbound shaping
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:40:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41A883C6.1040509@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41A3FECE.4070507@cfl.rr.com>

gypsy wrote:

>Andy Furniss wrote:
>  
>
>>>>>I am running proftpd on (192.168.1.101) with the port set to 65437 and
>>>>>with passive ports set to 50000-51000.  Proftpd allows you to specify a
>>>>>range of ports to use on passive transfers.  I need to be able to limit
>>>>>my outbound ftp traffic to 40 Kbytes per second.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Could you post the bits of the proftpd config that do this - I have (but
>>rarely use) proftpd and could test.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>The only way I can see to do this is limit by marking packets with
>>>>>iptables.  I am marking traffic on 65436 which is the active ftp data
>>>>>port (65437-1) and 50000-60000.  Outbound shaping is working
>>>>>fine....however....inbound ftp traffic is also being shaped to 40K.  I
>>>>>have no idea why.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Is this when there is ftp traffic both ways or just inbound?
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>Seems to me the below rules should mark outbound packets and shape only
>>>>>outbound packets.  I dont understand why inbound packets are getting
>>>>>shaped.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is the script:
>>>>>#!/bin/bash
>>>>>#shaping passive and active outbound ftp traffic on an internal computer
>>>>>without affecting inbound and lan speed
>>>>>
>>>>># mark the outbound passive ftp packets on ports 50000-51000
>>>>>iptables -t mangle -N MYSHAPER-OUT
>>>>>iptables -t mangle -I OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MYSHAPER-OUT
>>>>>
>>>>>iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -p tcp --sport 65436 -j MARK
>>>>>--set-mark 20
>>>>>iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -p tcp --sport 50000:51000 -j MARK
>>>>>--set-mark 20
>>>>>iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK
>>>>>--set-mark 26
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>1) Are you sure these rules are correctly marking and that the marks
>>>>exist at the time the tc filter sees the packet?  My hunch is NOT.
>>>>ASIDE: We _really_ need a way for filters to report hit counts!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>No, I am not sure.  I have used the command 'watch -n1 tc -s class ls
>>>dev eth0' to see the packets flying but i dont really know how to make
>>>sure they are being marked correctly.  I must assume that ALL packets on
>>>ports 65436 and 50000-510000 are being marked because they are being
>>>shaped.  Just not sure why incoming packets are being markek and
>>>shaped.  Outbound shaping is working just fine.
>>>      
>>>
>>You can see counters for iptables rules with iptables -t mangle -L -v -n
>>
>>Andy.
>>    
>>
>
>I have been thinking about this without getting much of anywhere, but
>here's what I think.
>
>Let me start by paraphasing your setup:
>You have a cable modem that is connecting to a NATting box that runs
>only IPCOP.  This IPCOP box forwards everything to the LAN.  On the LAN
>side of IPCOP all the packets you wish to shape have an IP  ending
>1.101.  The computer with IP 1.100 can be ignored for shaping purposes.
>
>If you MARK in iptables on IPCOP, I think the mark is internal only so
>that 101 will never see the mark.  You may not even be able to MARK on
>the IPCOP box (I know nothing of IPCOP).  If you are able to on the
>IPCOP machine, consider setting the TOS field in the mangle table for
>externally initiated FTP such that either all bits are on or all are off
>(or some other unique value); then on 101 examine TOS and MARK
>appropriately on the 101 machine or, preferably, just u32 match the TOS
>there.  
>
>If mangling TOS on IPCOP is possible and fruitful, be sure to do your
>homework regarding mangle and PREROUTING (or whatever chain does what
>you need).
>
>The IPCOP computer will "know" by the interface and --dport / --sport
>which FTP sessions were initiated from the internet versus those
>initiated on your LAN, but I can't see how 101 ever could.  IPCOP might
>also run one or more of netfilter's conntracks for FTP if that were
>needed.
>
>If I come up with anything after sleeping on this, I'll let you know. 
>But for now the above is all I can conceive.
>
>gyxpy
>
>  
>
You are correct on my setup.
 
I am currently trying the addition that Andy recommended and it appears 
to be working.  I am marking the ACK packets from the uploader and it 
seems to be fine now.  No slow down for uploads and outbound is shaped 
nicely.  I will continue to test to make sure everything is AOK.
Mark
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-27 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-24  3:23 [LARTC] outbound shaping nix4me
2004-11-25 20:11 ` Stef Coene
2004-11-25 22:05 ` nix4me
2004-11-26  6:00 ` gypsy
2004-11-26 13:25 ` nix4me
2004-11-26 13:25 ` nix4me
2004-11-26 21:14 ` gypsy
2004-11-26 22:32 ` nix4me
2004-11-27  0:46 ` Andy Furniss
2004-11-27  0:54 ` nix4me
2004-11-27  1:28 ` Andy Furniss
2004-11-27  4:28 ` gypsy
2004-11-27 13:40 ` nix4me [this message]
2004-11-27 14:01 ` nix4me
2004-11-29  3:32 ` Jason Boxman
2004-12-14 10:04 ` Daniel Bartlett

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