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From: Martin Devera <devik@cdi.cz>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [LARTC] SFQ + RED
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:28:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-lartc-100776423017336@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-lartc-100774775817462@msgid-missing>

yes I do. I oversight the sfq_drop call in enqueue ;-)
devik

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Don Cohen wrote:

> 
> After an off-list discussion I think Martin now agrees with me that
> sfq will not let one large flow deny service to all others.
> It's actually the other way around, ensuring service to the small ones
> even at the expense of the large ones.
> 
>  > From: Martin Devera <devik@cdi.cz>
>  > 
>  > IMHO the RED would be useful here. SFQ limits total packet count
>  > to 128 packets. So that one flow can simply fill whole SFQ leaving
>  > small space for other flows.
>  > I'm able to simulate it using one host generating huge UDP flow.
>  > All others flow goes away :(
>  > 
>  > devik 
>  > 
>  > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Don Cohen wrote:
>  > 
>  > > 
>  > >  > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 11:53:10AM -0500, Michael T. Babcock wrote:
>  > >  > > I've asked this before, but does anyone feel technically inclined 
>  > >  > > enough to try swapping in a RED queue for the per-bucket queuing done 
>  > >  > > by SFQ?  If SFQ builds a series of 'sessions' to be given fair use of 
>  > >  > > available bandwidth, using RED to slow down those that are building up 
>  > >  > > too fast would smooth things out.
>  > > 
>  > > I don't think this is necessary.  As it is now, when you enqueue a
>  > > packet in a full SFQ queue it drops from the tail of the longest
>  > > subqueue.  If you have substantial competition for the link then
>  > > your subqueue won't be allowed to grow very long to begin with.
>  > > The random variation in demand from other flows will have the effect
>  > > of jittering the maximum length of your subqueue, which is pretty
>  > > similar to what you experience with RED, isn't it?
> 
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Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-07 17:54 Subject: Re: [LARTC] SFQ + RED Don Cohen
2001-12-07 22:28 ` Martin Devera [this message]

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