[LARTC] Re: your mail

[devik <devik@cdi.cz>]

Hi,
I'm forwarding copy of the message to lartc group too as
it may be of general interest.

Regarding your case I'll try to summarize our conversation.
You asked me for explanation of an error message. I answered
and asked for basic informations.
You followed with msg that there is no other info. I directed
you where to find it and reasked basic config info again.
Other mails where you told me that you are experienced enough
and have no errors in your settings (I never told you have
them) - still no tc -s info for me.
And in last mail you told "I am trying to help you more
than you are trying to help me" !!

Well. I can answer only a few things:
1) From the first mail I asked for basic informations (tc -s -d ...)
   and I'm NOT ABLE to help you without them ! Instead of providing
   them you are telling me that I'm not willing to help.
2) I never underestimated your experience - you don't need to tell me that
   you set all correctly - I believe you. But if you want my help
   you should give me what I need.
3) I told you that if you got warnings about bad quantums then borrowing
   ratios are wrong. You tried to convince me that they are not. PLEASE,
   believe me, they are (even if only several percent). Remember - I wrote
   the damn thing and I know what it does.

The tc -s -d ... output I need can be obtained in any time - not only
at time of error.
I'd never write a message like this, but your last sentence (that I'm
not willing to help as much as you) disapointed me too much - because
I already have problems in my work because spending my time on HTB
(I'm solving at least one bug report per month - some of them took pretty
long time before discovering that there was no real bug).

It is not the way opensource work like.
have a nice day,
devik

> I haven't forgotten your requests nor am I ignoring you. It didn't do it
> today. Next time it does I will get the output. I am trying to help you more
> than you are trying to help me.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "devik" <devik@cdi.cz>
> To: "no0ne" <marks@mcn.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:33 AM
> Subject: Re: your mail
>
>
> > thanks, can you also send me
> > > tc -s -d qdisc
> > > tc -s -d class show dev XXX
> >
> > I asked two times for ? Also from your last mail I feel
> > that you are unsatified with my "support services". Well
> > if you think that I bother you then you think about the
> > fact that I'm trying to help you while having nothing
> > from it !
> >
> > -------------------------------
> >     Martin Devera aka devik
> > Linux kernel QoS/HTB maintainer
> >   http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, no0ne wrote:
> >
> > > Here is some of the debugging info:
> > >
> > > htb*c10117 m=2 t=-26777 c=-31288 pq=0 df\x1441792 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10080 m=2 t=-45721 c\x12161 pq=0 df\x1998848 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10091 m=2 t\x163300 cF975 pq=0 dfD982272 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10109 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10118 m=2 t\x163300 cF975 pq=0 df211264 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10081 m=2 t=-68763 c‡38 pq=0 df"9376 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10090 m=2 t\x163300 cF975 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10108 m=2 t\x168099 c(187 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10119 m=2 t=-203578 c=-21102 pq=0 dfT8864 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10028 m=2 t\x162500 cF775 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10039 m=2 t\x161700 cF575 pq=0 df…1968 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10082 m=2 t\x159300 c\x17638 pq=0 df\x16736256 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10093 m=2 t\x162500 cF775 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10029 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10038 m=2 t62744 c62744 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10083 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10092 m=0 t=-156057 c=-57031 pqx001670 dfI152 ql=1 pa=2 f:
> > > htb*c10048 m=2 t\x156900 cE375 pq=0 df85024 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10059 m=2 t\x159300 cE975 pq=0 df8985728 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10084 m=2 t\x159300 c'088 pq=0 df\x16736256 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10095 m=2 t\x161700 cF575 pq=0 df$98560 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10049 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10058 m=2 t\x161700 ci599 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10085 m=2 t=-68763 c\x10375 pq=0 df"9376 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10094 m=2 t\x162500 cF775 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10068 m=2 t\x163300 cF975 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10079 m=2 t\x163300 cF975 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10086 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10097 m=2 t\x162500 cF775 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10069 m=2 t\x161700 c3783 pq=0 df\x14213120 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10078 m=2 t\x139300 c@975 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10087 m=2 t\x159300 cE975 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > > htb*c10096 m=2 t\x168099 cH174 pq=0 df`000000 ql=0 pa=0 f:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "devik" <devik@cdi.cz>
> > > To: "no0ne" <marks@mcn.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: your mail
> > >
> > >
> > > > > I didn't see anything after this message. It only did it once and
> the
> > > next
> > > > > time I ran it with the same rates it went through without that
> message.
> > > If
> > > >
> > > > only note, the debug info after the message is output at
> > > > another level (not KERN_ERR). You could see it with "dmesg"
> > > > cmd issued after that or by changing syslog.conf to log
> > > > *.debug somewhere.
> > > > devik
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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