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From: bert hubert ahu@ds9a.nl
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [LARTC] linux/tc vs packetshaper
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:14:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-lartc-98373940416941@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-lartc-98373940416936@msgid-missing>

<PRE>On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 07:07:19PM +0100, Joakim Recht wrote:
&gt;<i> Hi
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering how a Linuxbox running iproute2 and tc to do bandwidth 
</I>&gt;<i> control on a 20 mbit internet connection compares? A Packeteer 
</I>&gt;<i> PacketShaper 4500 costs about $20,000, and a Linuxbox can be set up for 
</I>&gt;<i> much less, but can it be used for a network with some 1000 users without 
</I>&gt;<i> too much trouble?
</I>
Number of users is not that big an issue. We've filtered 90mbit/s of traffic
with Linux, but we currently only shape up to 5mbit/s. However, the sites we
filter have &gt;100 http connections per second, which each take a few seconds
to complete, so I'd guess that at any one time we have ~300 tcp/ip sessions
running. 

I bet a 1000 users would not come near to that amount of sessions.

&gt;<i> Following that question, how is the latency affected by a Linux router? 
</I>&gt;<i> The PacketShaper should add no more than 50 msec pr packet, how does 
</I>&gt;<i> Linux compare to this?
</I>
Well, AFAIK, Packeteers, which used to be quite evil wrt to corrupting IP
options by the way!, 'shape' by fooling around with TCP Window options. That
does not induce a lot of latency.

Regular shaping might induce more, but it hasn't been a problem for us so
far. As long as you are not actively shaping (ie, remain below your
bandwidth ceiling), we don't see *any* additional latency.

&gt;<i> Now, I realize that the Packeteer thing is much easier to configure, and 
</I>&gt;<i> also provides some pretty extensive statistical information, but that is 
</I>&gt;<i> not necessary for me.
</I>
We've only configured our shaping solution once, using the excellent
CBQ.init script. Takes little time, and then runs on without any problems.

Regards,

bert hubert

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-01 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-01 18:07 [LARTC] linux/tc vs packetshaper Joakim
2001-02-01 21:14 ` bert [this message]
2001-02-02  0:29 ` Joakim

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