Re: New user wanting to help

["Hans" <hans64@ht-lab.com>]

Jody,

You behave a bit like a little kid stamping its feet, using phrases like 
"provides me precisely USD$0.00 in compensation" and "have other things to 
worry about ". This is not the attitude of a GNU project site maintainer 
which you volunteered for!

If you don't have the time to maintain the website, i.e. as a minimum keep 
the "latest news" page up2date (which shouldn't take you more than 10 
minutes) than ask somebody else to do it!

Hans
www.ht-lab.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JBRUCHON" <jbruchon@nc.rr.com>
To: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: New user wanting to help


> Or, as "THE site admin," I could just be human like the other 20 or so 
> "site admins" and have other things to worry about beyond following links 
> and editing HTML when I have bills to pay.  No one here has any right to 
> tell me what I "should" do when doing so provides me precisely USD$0.00 in 
> compensation.  I can convert that amount to Euros or CDN$ or whatever you 
> happen to use if you like, but I'm pretty sure that the conversion is 
> quite easily done by anyone interested in doing such.
>
> Whatever I happen to do comes from the goodness of my own heart and my 
> desire to further such a project.  When the priority of ELKS is trumped by 
> the priority of Real Life(tm), I'll do "what I should do."  Until then, 
> you can either have patience and wait for me to get free time to do it 
> when life permits such, you can "raise the priority of ELKS" by channeling 
> compensation my way, or you can request addition to the developer list 
> like I did.  I'm not a project admin, so I don't have privileges to add 
> new admins or developers, so don't ask.
>
> I'm sure, since they seem to still get this mailing list, that Alan Cox 
> and others can back up the fact that other aspects of life can easily take 
> precedence over ELKS.  That, as I understand it, is what happened to them.
>
> In the meantime, please don't make demands of a free volunteer, even if 
> you try to cushion it with the "I don't mean to sound like this, but..." 
> preface.  You may not want to sound that way, but guess what?  You do. 
> It's disrespectful and rude.  Solutions provided above.
>
>
>
> **** tl;dr: I'll do it when time permits.
>
>
> Jody
>
>
> Hans wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JBRUCHON" <jbruchon@nc.rr.com>
>> To: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: New user wanting to help
>>
>>
>>> I'm sort of the current maintainer of the site and the project, but have 
>>> no access to the mailing list setup at all.
>>>
>>> I'm a fairly busy person so I don't do much without being asked to do 
>>> it, and my web-fu sucks pretty bad.
>>
>> Sorry Jody, I don't want to sound nasty since I have done 0% contribution 
>> myself but we shouldn't have to tell you to add a link. When somebody 
>> like Bram Lohman emails the list that he has Elks running on an emulator 
>> and that is it freely available to download than you as the site admin 
>> should, as a bare minimum, add the link without one of us telling you to 
>> do so.
>>
>> Since you are very busy (which I fully understand) can I suggest you 
>> share the admin details with a few more people or better speak to Mario 
>> to get a wiki page added.
>>
>> Back to work :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans.
>> www.ht-lab.com
>>
>>
>>>
>>> If you want something in particular done, give me the resources and I'll 
>>> get it done.
>>>
>>> Ben Weiss wrote:
>>>> --- Hans <hans64@ht-lab.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am a bit disappointed that Rask Lambertsen's GCC
>>>>> port and the Dioscuri emulator (which runs ELKS!) are not mentioned on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> website, come on guys, it can't be that much work to add some 
>>>>> hyperlinks...
>>>>
>>>> This seems like the easiest thing to fix first, and
>>>> makes the project "look" better, so I'd be happy to
>>>> provide some updates to the site. Not too much for
>>>> now, just keeping with static pages- fixing broken
>>>> links, adding some (ie Rasks's port), etc. Does anyone
>>>> know who needs to be contacted to update the archive
>>>> mentioned on vger.kernel.org? Is this list still even
>>>> being archived, or do we have to "sign up" for it? (If
>>>> so, gmane comes to mind...)
>>>>
>>>>> Compiling ELKS under GCC is not going to be
>>>>> easy but IMHO will be very beneficial for the wider embedded user 
>>>>> community and
>>>>> hence will/might increase the popularity of ELKS.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like great minds think alike :)
>>>> Not only is GCC much more popular and continuously
>>>> maintained, but apparently GCC (GAS, rather) uses AT&T
>>>> syntax, and BCC uses Intel syntax. Since Linux uses
>>>> GCC, it follows that modifying/porting to ELKS would
>>>> be easier if we also use GCC. -Ben
>>>>
>>>>
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