Re: *vi*->e3

[Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com>]

--- Jody <jbruchon@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Replace vi with e3 if you can force e3 to behave
> just like vi when it
> starts, because I used SmallLinux and it invokes e3
> when I type vi and I
> couldn't edit ANYTHING.  Pissed me off.  It must
> start as if it is vi and
> behave as if it is vi if we are to replace vi with
> it.  I'm sure others
> will agree.  I don't CARE about emacs keybindings
> because I don't USE
> emacs.  I don't want some oddball editor with
> controls I don't know, I want
> something that I can use out of the box.
> I personally liked the editor "nano" that was in
> older Debian releases,
> because it had its [control-X] key combinations for
> commands listed briefly
> at the bottom while you used it, it was full-screen,
> and it behaved like a
> "sane" full-screen editor rather than being a creep
> like vi, where I have
> to type :a to add to the end of a line and :i to
> insert...why can't I just
> type and use cursor keys to move around?  Maybe it's
> not "the traditional
> UNIX way of doing it" but it sure helps to not have
> to accidentally type :i
> when I "meant" :a and similar...
> I have always hated vi anyway.  The only reason I
> use CRUX's vi is because
> it's vim and vim lets me type :i and then break all
> the vi typing rules :)
> I can use vi though, so if we're talking about
> replacing it with something
> smaller, AT LEAST MAKE SURE IT WORKS THE SAME WHEN
> INVOKED.  I don't want
> to have to figure out a new editor, and indeed we
> would like a very small
> learning curve between ELKS <-> Linux day-to-day
> console work.
> I used to use MS-DOS EDIT back in DOS 5.0, but you
> sure as heck NEVER saw
> me using EDLIN for ANYTHING AT ALL.  Line editors
> are old and outdated.
> Full-screen editors with menus or control-X
> combinations that are
> explicitly outlined at the bottom are much easier
> and friendly and sane,
> especially to people who haven't used UNIX or ELKS
> before.
> 
> Courtesy of the Highly Opinionated vi-hating Jody,
> who still uses Windows
> despite the fact that Linux is better.

I don't know why it didn't start with vi keybindings,
SmallLinux is several years old anyway. The key
bindings are, vi (a lot of people use this), emacs (a
lot of people use this to), pico (nano is a clone),
wordstar and nedit (never heard of those).

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miguel Bolanos" <mike@linuxlabs.com>
> To: "Tommy McCabe" <rocketjet314@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: *vi*->e3
> 
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