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From: u-vpoa@aetey.se
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-8086 <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: the memory model being used in elks?
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 23:19:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150510211944.GO8197@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150510212744.60ca87d4@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:27:44PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sun, 10 May 2015 20:40:27 +0200
> u-vpoa@aetey.se wrote:
> > I see, a minix-like static allocation (I'm guessing this is needed
> > because ELKS does not yet handle overlapping segments between different
> > processes so it does not want to allocate a whole segment to each process
> > per default?).
> 
> Classic Unix defines the memory map as
> 
>    <--- Data ---><--- BSS ---> | <--- Space ---> | <--- Stack --- >
> 
> Where the upper divide is SP and the lower one is set by brk() or sbrk().
> The space in the middle doesn't all really exist if you have an MMU with
> any kind of sane paging system.

Even without MMU overlapping 8086 segments allow the use of this <-Space->
for stack or data+bss of other processes. Wonder if/how this is handled
in elks (lacking the time to Use-The-Source...)

> If you have support built for ELKS pattern binaries then you can do
> resizing at runtime as they are laid out to allow the bss to extend

This is what I expected - but rebuilding the kernel with and without
the corresponding option did not seem to change the result.

Indicating the desired data area size with -H improved the outcome but still
the available space looks smaller than it should be. Sigh, I did not plan
to do kernel hacking just to make the pres utility work as it used to. :)

/Rl


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-10 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-08 20:14 the memory model being used in elks? u-vpoa
2015-05-09 17:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-09 17:47   ` u-vpoa
2015-05-09 17:50     ` Jody Bruchon
2015-05-09 18:38       ` u-vpoa
2015-05-10 15:31         ` Juan Perez-Sanchez
2015-05-10 18:40           ` u-vpoa
2015-05-10 20:27             ` Alan Cox
2015-05-10 21:19               ` u-vpoa [this message]
2015-05-10 21:51                 ` Alan Cox
2015-05-11  6:10                   ` u-vpoa
2015-05-11  9:27                     ` Alan Cox
2015-05-11 11:25                       ` u-vpoa

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