From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Emanuele Galloni Subject: Re: What's happening? Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:10:33 +0100 Sender: linux-8086-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <3EE084B9.2383C5E2@lulop.com> References: <3EE05643.32EEF307@lulop.com> <3EE083CC.9050004@innerpeace.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "jerryc@innerpeace.org" Cc: linux-8086@vger.kernel.org, Lorenzo Manes It sounds really good to me and I can see a lot of material for a good story. We at Lulop are thinking about opensource too for our videopusher software that we use for videonews distribution to broadcasters, so this has a double importance for us. Going back to Canada, can you tell me more about this program? What is the name of the organisation who is managing this? By the way, I am looking forward to meet you in London and speak more deeply about this issue so we can put a nice piece altogheter. Bestest. Emanuele "jerryc@innerpeace.org" wrote: > Here's what I've found out from discussions with computer recyclers > around the world. (Canada, BTW, has one of the most well developed > computer recycling programs.) The resourcful ones have plenty of demand > for pentiums, 486's, and even 386's, and put most of the ones they can > salvage back into use. They even use 286's for word processing machines > and are pretty much matched with supply and demand. > > They have some use for 8086's for some science applications, but they > have more supply than demand. If they had applications for the 8086's, > they would love to put them to good use. > > Even when they recycle the parts for scrap metal and keep them out of > landfills, that's still a poor utilization of the resource compared to > keeping them functioning as intact computers. As insignificant as these > computers seem by today's standards, they are so far above having no > computer, particularly with the right applications. > > The value to society of keeping these computers doing something of value > is huge. When you add the value of keeping them out of landfills it gets > much bigger. With the billions of dollars companies are sinking into > open source and the potential liability exposure manufactures like IBM, > HP, and even Dell will face from the environmental hazards of these old > computers in landfills, both the actual and PR value of supporting a > program like ELKS is a no brainer. We just need to present this to the > right people who do the funding for open source. > > If anybody has the right connections to get some financial support for > ELKS from some of the sources that are already funding open source, > please get this info before them. Compared to what's being spent > elsewhere, we're really talking small change and huge return on investment. > > I'm planning to visit Red Hat in the next few weeks before I head for > Rwanda. They probably don't have the funding themselves but should be > well connected to those who do. I'm hoping to inspire them to put some > support into this. Hopefully that will get the funders to throw some > small change behind ELKS and get this project to a stable, functioning > level. > > Emanuele Galloni wrote: > > Thank you Jerry, > > I did get it and it seams good. > > The fact that you are going to Rwanda makes it even better. > > One of the things I was working on is the following: > > Originally, some of you guys were saying that ELKS, since it can run on > > any pc, from an 8088 to a Pentium IV, could > > be a very useful in developing countries where old computers are much > > more common that the newest ones. > > Is there anybody who can give me some infos about this side of ELKS? > > Many thanks. > > Emanuele > > > > "jerryc@innerpeace.org" wrote: > > > > We're not in London, we're in the Smokey Mountains of Asheville NC US. > > > > But we could do an email interview. > > > > I don't know what your schedule is, but I'm headed to Rwanda in July > > with the Inner Peace work. If it's real important to do something in > > person, I might be able to route myself that way and do a layover. > > > > I just did a post with a little info about what we're doing. If you > > didn't get it, let me know. > > > > Emanuele Galloni wrote: > > > Hello guys, > > > I am still trying to give to ELKS some sort of media resonance.. I > > would like > > > to video- interview somebody about it and shoot some computers and > > palmtops > > > running it. I am based in London (UK) from were I cover things for > > Lulop.com. > > > If anybody is still interested and is not too far from here, please, > > let me > > > know. > > > Emanuele > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Wallman wrote: > > > > > > > > >>On 5 Jun, Miguel Bolanos wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>In the new site we will have the status of the project, as well as > > the > > >>>TODO list and docs, this site is intended to be available in > > several > > >>>languages. > > >> > > >>If you need web space, I'll happily provide some. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Regarding the project it self, the last commit was indeed several > > months > > >>>ago, i am trying to organize my time to get back into all this. > > >> > > >>That's okay, I just thought it may have been abandoned altogether! I > > > > >>may get round to finished my xmodem and compression programs then... > > > > >>-- > > >>Richard Wallman > > >>http://www.murkygoth.uklinux.net/elks > > >> > > >>- > > >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > > linux-8086" in > > >>the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > >>More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > > linux-8086" in > > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.htm > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-8086" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-8086" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.htm