Sugestions !! new issues

Sugestions !! new issues

[Fredrik Söderlund]

Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ? 
have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone nows ?

Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you on the 
ELKs system 

Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....

Kindly regards Fille 


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facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Segin]

Fredrik � wrote:
> Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
> User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ? 
> have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone nows ?
> 
> Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you on the 
> ELKs system 
> 
> Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....
> 
> Kindly regards Fille 
> 
> 
>      ------ >
>        \
> 
>>------ 
> 
> 
> A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than
> he could be elected Pope of Rome.  Both high posts are reserved for men
> favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
> facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
> 		-- H. L. Mencken
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Here's a tip: vastly improve your English skills.

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	-- Linus Torvalds

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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Fredrik Söderlund]

On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21.57, Segin wrote:
> Fredrik � wrote:
> > Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
> > User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ?
> > have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone nows ?
> >
> > Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
> > on the ELKs system
> >
> > Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....
> >
> > Kindly regards Fille
> >
> >
> >      ------ >
> >        \
> >
> >>------
> >
> > A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than
> > he could be elected Pope of Rome.  Both high posts are reserved for men
> > favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
> > facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
> > 		-- H. L. Mencken
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> """"Here's a tip: vastly improve your English skills."""""


And Heres a Tip For you my friend Learn to Take people whit Dyslexia WHIT SOME 
Manors and ethics and moral and you will grow allot wiser on the path you 
travel becorse only with true Human dignity you will find you're true Value 

Kindly Regards Fille   
-- 
You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door
mayonnaise salesman.
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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Segin]

Fredrik Söderlund wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21.57, Segin wrote:
> 
>>Fredrik � wrote:
>>
>>>Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
>>>User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ?
>>>have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone nows ?
>>>
>>>Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
>>>on the ELKs system
>>>
>>>Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....
>>>
>>>Kindly regards Fille
>>>
>>>
>>>     ------ >
>>>       \
>>>
>>>
>>>>------
>>>
>>>A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than
>>>he could be elected Pope of Rome.  Both high posts are reserved for men
>>>favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
>>>facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
>>>		-- H. L. Mencken
>>>-
>>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-8086" in
>>>the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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>>
>>""""Here's a tip: vastly improve your English skills."""""
> 
> 
> 
> And Heres a Tip For you my friend Learn to Take people whit Dyslexia WHIT SOME 
> Manors and ethics and moral and you will grow allot wiser on the path you 
> travel becorse only with true Human dignity you will find you're true Value 
> 
> Kindly Regards Fille   

That isn't Dyslexia, that is a person in some odd country that just 
choose to annoy us with very mangled English. Nobody I know can make any 
real sense out of it, besides that this person is trying to use Bochs 
for ELKS, and that's a bit iffy. My email client marked this as spam, 
it's so horrible!

By the way, Dyslexia sufferers produce better english than this, please 
stop trying to blame blantant stupidity on a medical disorder. While 
you're at it, try rewriting all the Linux kernel modules in C++ and 
sending the patches back to Linus.

-- 
The real problem with C++ for kernel modules is: the language just sucks.
	-- Linus Torvalds

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Dyslexia and Broken English [OT]

[Jody]

There is no place for this hostility on this list.

Please make this discussion private if you wish to continue it.

Thank you.

Jody Bruchon


Segin wrote:
> Fredrik Söderlund wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21.57, Segin wrote:
>>
>>> Fredrik � wrote:
>>>
>>>> Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
>>>> User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ?
>>>> have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone 
>>>> nows ?
>>>>
>>>> Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
>>>> on the ELKs system
>>>>
>>>> Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....
>>>>
>>>> Kindly regards Fille
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ------ >
>>>>       \
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than
>>>> he could be elected Pope of Rome.  Both high posts are reserved for men
>>>> favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
>>>> facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
>>>>         -- H. L. Mencken
>>>> -
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe 
>>>> linux-8086" in
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>>>
>>>
>>> """"Here's a tip: vastly improve your English skills."""""
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And Heres a Tip For you my friend Learn to Take people whit Dyslexia 
>> WHIT SOME Manors and ethics and moral and you will grow allot wiser on 
>> the path you travel becorse only with true Human dignity you will find 
>> you're true Value
>> Kindly Regards Fille   
> 
> 
> That isn't Dyslexia, that is a person in some odd country that just 
> choose to annoy us with very mangled English. Nobody I know can make any 
> real sense out of it, besides that this person is trying to use Bochs 
> for ELKS, and that's a bit iffy. My email client marked this as spam, 
> it's so horrible!
> 
> By the way, Dyslexia sufferers produce better english than this, please 
> stop trying to blame blantant stupidity on a medical disorder. While 
> you're at it, try rewriting all the Linux kernel modules in C++ and 
> sending the patches back to Linus.
> 
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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Vikas Kumar]

> Fredrik Söderlund wrote:
> >>>Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
> >>>on the ELKs system

Yes, there is an ACK compiler i think and a bcc compiler as well i
think. otherwise just learn 8086 assembly and use an assembler. it is
not that difficult if you already know C.

regards,
vikas
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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Segin]

Vikas Kumar wrote:
>> Fredrik S�derlund wrote:
>> >>>Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for 
>> you
>> >>>on the ELKs system
> 
> 
> Yes, there is an ACK compiler i think and a bcc compiler as well i
> think. otherwise just learn 8086 assembly and use an assembler. it is
> not that difficult if you already know C.
> 
> regards,
> vikas

I *think* he means a compiler to use inside a live ELKS system, but I 
can't be sure, this guy's English is too broken to really tell.

But, alas, with such horrible English, all you can do is speculate on 
what they are trying to say, you can never be sure on any of it.

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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Hans]

Hi Fredrik,

> > Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
> > on the ELKs system

Do you mean running a C compiler under ELKS or compilers that can be used to
compile ELKS and user programs?

If you mean the latter one then in principle you can use any 8086/88/186
compiler such as Watcom, Borland-C, ACK, Micro-C, Lattice-C, C51 and many
many others (should we make a list for the website?)
However, due to the embedded assembly code in some of the source files using
anything other than BCC to compile ELKS is not going to be easy. For
application (i.e. pure C) programs this might be easier to do, see for
example:

http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/fhlvnr.html

Regards,
Hans
www.ht-lab.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fredrik Söderlund" <fille.sod@telia.com>
To: "Segin" <segin2005@gmail.com>
Cc: "Linux-8086" <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Sugestions !! new issues


On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21.57, Segin wrote:
> Fredrik � wrote:
> > Screenshots maybe "thou i don't now how to fix that" emulation boch ?
> > User programs is there any out there more than there is Today ?
> > have read some were that there is a form of snake fore it ? anyone nows
> > ?
> >
> > Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work for you
> > on the ELKs system
> >
> > Tips = Hints ! on howto get things to work etc.....
> >
> > Kindly regards Fille
> >
> >
> >      ------ >
> >        \
> >
> >>------
> >
> > A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than
> > he could be elected Pope of Rome.  Both high posts are reserved for men
> > favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
> > facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
> > -- H. L. Mencken
> > -
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>
> """"Here's a tip: vastly improve your English skills."""""


And Heres a Tip For you my friend Learn to Take people whit Dyslexia WHIT
SOME
Manors and ethics and moral and you will grow allot wiser on the path you
travel becorse only with true Human dignity you will find you're true Value

Kindly Regards Fille
-- 
You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door
mayonnaise salesman.
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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Vikas Kumar]

Has anyone ever tried MontaVista Linux  or is familiar with it ?
I hear it is a popular embedded Linux distro.

On 5/3/06, pfengland@mailshack.com <pfengland@mailshack.com> wrote:
> I was originally interested in getting bcc compiled to run natively under ELKS, but it seems there is more work to be done to get the kernel and basic system components working better (and maybe faster) before that is really useful.  I'm curious as to whether it is possible to get ELKS to a place where it is actually useable on ancient systems.  It is way slower (and way more sophisticated, of course) than freeDOS and the like.  I want to try and experiment with getting a really pared down ELKS system running faster and more reliably.
>   I am curious on what early unix systems were like and the specs of the machines they were running on.  I remember reading that when DOS was invented, UNIX took up about 100K of system memory for itself.  If it worked well on that, it should be possible to get a simple unix like system running great with 640K.
>   Is there anyone paying attention to this list who has actively devloped ELKS, or have all of them moved on?  I have C and developing 8086 assembly skills.  I hope to work on ELKS when I get a chance, which will probably be in a month and a half or so.  Has anyone had any luck getting a copy of the lates elks sources yet?
> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:07:58 -0500
> From: pfengland@mailshack.com
> To: walburn@gmail.com
>
> Forrest
>
>


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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Segin]

I never said I hated anyone of any race, so it is not racist. I also 
have something to say, and supporting evidence to my claim.

Bad English needs to be stopped. (Linux-8086 commentary)

It just happens that every once in a while, some poor fellow somewhere 
on Earth just drives us mad with horrible, undecipherable English. It's 
only natural. The usual outcome is that people use the mailing list just 
to speculate to the meaning of the broken words. A quote, which 
undeniably proves this, is here:
===========8<============

 > Compiler how to is there any small compilers out there ? to work for
 > you on the ELKs system

Do you mean running a C compiler under ELKS or compilers that can be 
used to compile ELKS and user programs?
===========8<============
Undoubtly, horrible English such as this really pisses everyone off. 
There is, on occasion, a person that tells the original poster to learn 
better English. He is almost certanly right. The result is this person 
with this advise gets flamed by people in non-English speaking countries 
(Finland, Sweden, Germany, India, etc.) who have very good English, and 
  are just over conscious about how they appear to others. They flame 
back because they think *their* English is bad. These people, in 
pratice, are best off to just shut the fuck up. Usually, the thread 
evolves in this manner:

1. Some guy posts in the worst excuse for English imaginable
2. People speculate over the broken works, writing replies for all 
possible meanings
3. The annoying guy posts back something that can mean either that our 
English sucks (which is doesn't), or that he can't understand us, and 
for us to accomadate for him (which we really can't).
4a. People seculate on what the hell the guy wants.
4b. Flame war ensues.
5. Annoying guy sends 1.2MB e-mail containing nothing but "fuck you" 
repeated over and over because we couldn't help him.

It should also be noted that a lot of email clients and email providers 
mark such postings as spam.

Emanuele 'Lele' Galloni wrote:
> You are extremely annoying with these racist comments.
> Please stop it.
> 
> Segin wrote:
> 
>> Vikas Kumar wrote:
>>
>>>> Fredrik S�derlund wrote:
>>>> >>>Compiler howto is there any small compilers out there ? to work 
>>>> for you
>>>> >>>on the ELKs system
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, there is an ACK compiler i think and a bcc compiler as well i
>>> think. otherwise just learn 8086 assembly and use an assembler. it is
>>> not that difficult if you already know C.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> vikas
>>
>>
>> I *think* he means a compiler to use inside a live ELKS system, but I 
>> can't be sure, this guy's English is too broken to really tell.
>>
>> But, alas, with such horrible English, all you can do is speculate on 
>> what they are trying to say, you can never be sure on any of it.
>>
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>>
>>
> 


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Re: Sugestions !! new issues

[Alver]

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Last time I checked "everyone" would have included me, and you're in no way in 
the right place to speak for me, nor does your personal opinion apply to me. 
Stop doing so, cut the senseless drivel and get back to the point. This is a 
8086-linux mailing list, not a national grammar/spelling contest.

Kind regards,

Lennert.

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 22:37, you wrote:
> Undoubtly, horrible English such as this really pisses everyone off.

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