Re: We have a whole new ton of goodies to investigate...

[MFLD <mfld.fr@gmail.com>]

Hello,

Thanks for the interesting info about various toolchains for Fuzix. I 
wonder why you include x86_16 target in the Fuzix challenge, as ELKS is 
already playing on that ground, but that is your baby, so...

Back to ELKS : from what I see in the Coherent tree ('duff' was my 
friend to have a more clear view), CC and AS386 output object files in 
COFF, not A.OUT as BCC and AS86, so we would have to migrate to the 
associated LD386, and update other tools as DIS88 (and the upcoming 
MON86 and EMU86, scoop!). And despite that move, staying out of the 
mainsteam on an unmaintained toolchain...

I am afraid it would be a too heavy workload just to have fun with old 
hardware or for learning purpose. I would instead spend my spare time in 
splitting the recursive parser / code generator in BCC to keep it 
simple, easy understandable and more maintainable (BCC = Basic C 
Compiler for Beginner ?), following the PCC design without portability 
in mind, and to be able to improve the register allocator without 
dealing with any generic register representation as in GCC.

The latest because I see Juan or Jody saving few bytes with big effort, 
while many bytes could be saved at the root by optimizing register usage 
in function bodies (starting with the SI / DI push / pop for nothing); 
and because I am already breaking the 64K segment limit with a first 
draft of an Ethernet driver for my board. ANSI non-compliance is not 
really a concern at that stage. But I could understand my rational is 
only valid for my specific use case...

Regards,

MFLD

Le 15/04/2015 23:41, Alan Cox a écrit :
> Started to have a look to that huge stuff (not really sorted...), but
> could you please explain the idea you have in mind ? Is this a suggest
> to replace the DEV86 toolchain by something else ?
> >At least the compiler. The Coherent compiler is an ANSI C compiler with a
> reasonably good optimiser on it. The tree seems to have versions for
> 8086, 80286 (protected mode included) and 80386 (which is probably not
> useful)
>
> >8086 I did a test build of the core with bcc, but would probably use 
> the coherent compiler eventually if it did 8086. Not sure there is 
> that much point doing 8086, fixing the dumber bits ELKS inherited from 
> 32bit Linux would probably shrink it down to the point the size change 
> wasn't that big a deal. Alan 

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