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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jon Nettleton <jon@solid-run.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Makarand Pawagi <makarand.pawagi@nxp.com>,
	Calvin Johnson <calvin.johnson@nxp.com>,
	stuyoder@gmail.com, nleeder@codeaurora.org,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Cristi Sovaiala <cristian.sovaiala@nxp.com>,
	Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Pankaj Bansal <pankaj.bansal@nxp.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
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Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH] bus: fsl-mc: Add ACPI support for fsl-mc
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:48:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0680c2ce-cff0-d163-6bd9-1eb39be06eee@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABdtJHsu9R9g4mn25=9EW3jkCMhnej_rfkiRzo3OCX4cv4hpUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020-01-31 12:28 pm, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ard Biesheuvel
> <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 12:06, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2020-01-31 10:35, Makarand Pawagi wrote:
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:39 PM
>>>>> To: Makarand Pawagi <makarand.pawagi@nxp.com>
>>>>> Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-
>>>>> kernel@lists.infradead.org; linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org;
>>>>> linux@armlinux.org.uk;
>>>>> jon@solid-run.com; Cristi Sovaiala <cristian.sovaiala@nxp.com>;
>>>>> Laurentiu
>>>>> Tudor <laurentiu.tudor@nxp.com>; Ioana Ciornei
>>>>> <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>;
>>>>> Varun Sethi <V.Sethi@nxp.com>; Calvin Johnson
>>>>> <calvin.johnson@nxp.com>;
>>>>> Pankaj Bansal <pankaj.bansal@nxp.com>; guohanjun@huawei.com;
>>>>> sudeep.holla@arm.com; rjw@rjwysocki.net; lenb@kernel.org;
>>>>> stuyoder@gmail.com; tglx@linutronix.de; jason@lakedaemon.net;
>>>>> maz@kernel.org; shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com; will@kernel.org;
>>>>> robin.murphy@arm.com; nleeder@codeaurora.org
>>>>> Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH] bus: fsl-mc: Add ACPI support for fsl-mc
>>>>>
>>>>> Caution: EXT Email
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 01:38:45PM +0530, Makarand Pawagi wrote:
>>>>>> ACPI support is added in the fsl-mc driver. Driver will parse MC DSDT
>>>>>> table to extract memory and other resorces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interrupt (GIC ITS) information will be extracted from MADT table by
>>>>>> drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3-its-fsl-mc-msi.c.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IORT table will be parsed to configure DMA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Makarand Pawagi <makarand.pawagi@nxp.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>   drivers/acpi/arm64/iort.c                   | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>   drivers/bus/fsl-mc/dprc-driver.c            |  3 +-
>>>>>>   drivers/bus/fsl-mc/fsl-mc-bus.c             | 48 +++++++++++++------
>>>>>>   drivers/bus/fsl-mc/fsl-mc-msi.c             | 10 +++-
>>>>>>   drivers/bus/fsl-mc/fsl-mc-private.h         |  4 +-
>>>>>>   drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3-its-fsl-mc-msi.c | 71
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>>>   include/linux/acpi_iort.h                   |  5 ++
>>>>>>   7 files changed, 174 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/arm64/iort.c b/drivers/acpi/arm64/iort.c
>>>>>> index 33f7198..beb9cd5 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/arm64/iort.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/arm64/iort.c
>>>>>> @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
>>>>>>   #include <linux/kernel.h>
>>>>>>   #include <linux/list.h>
>>>>>>   #include <linux/pci.h>
>>>>>> +#include <linux/fsl/mc.h>
>>>>>>   #include <linux/platform_device.h>
>>>>>>   #include <linux/slab.h>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @@ -622,6 +623,29 @@ static int iort_dev_find_its_id(struct device
>>>>>> *dev, u32 req_id,  }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   /**
>>>>>> + * iort_get_fsl_mc_device_domain() - Find MSI domain related to a
>>>>>> +device
>>>>>> + * @dev: The device.
>>>>>> + * @mc_icid: ICID for the fsl_mc device.
>>>>>> + *
>>>>>> + * Returns: the MSI domain for this device, NULL otherwise  */ struct
>>>>>> +irq_domain *iort_get_fsl_mc_device_domain(struct device *dev,
>>>>>> +                                                     u32 mc_icid) {
>>>>>> +     struct fwnode_handle *handle;
>>>>>> +     int its_id;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +     if (iort_dev_find_its_id(dev, mc_icid, 0, &its_id))
>>>>>> +             return NULL;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +     handle = iort_find_domain_token(its_id);
>>>>>> +     if (!handle)
>>>>>> +             return NULL;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +     return irq_find_matching_fwnode(handle, DOMAIN_BUS_FSL_MC_MSI);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>
>>>>> NAK
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not willing to take platform specific code in the generic IORT
>>>>> layer.
>>>>>
>>>>> ACPI on ARM64 works on platforms that comply with SBSA/SBBR
>>>>> guidelines:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://developer.arm.com/architectures/platform-design/server-systems
>>>>>
>>>>> Deviating from those requires butchering ACPI specifications (ie IORT)
>>>>> and
>>>>> related kernel code which goes totally against what ACPI is meant for
>>>>> on ARM64
>>>>> systems, so there is no upstream pathway for this code I am afraid.
>>>>>
>>>> Reason of adding this platform specific function in the generic IORT
>>>> layer is
>>>> That iort_get_device_domain() only deals with PCI bus
>>>> (DOMAIN_BUS_PCI_MSI).
>>>>
>>>> fsl-mc objects when probed, need to find irq_domain which is associated
>>>> with
>>>> the fsl-mc bus (DOMAIN_BUS_FSL_MC_MSI). It will not be possible to do
>>>> that
>>>> if we do not add this function because there are no other suitable APIs
>>>> exported
>>>> by IORT layer to do the job.
>>>
>>> I think we all understood the patch. What both Lorenzo and myself are
>>> saying is
>>> that we do not want non-PCI support in IORT.
>>>
>>
>> IORT supports platform devices (aka named components) as well, and
>> there is some support for platform MSIs in the GIC layer.
>>
>> So it may be possible to hide your exotic bus from the OS entirely,
>> and make the firmware instantiate a DSDT with device objects and
>> associated IORT nodes that describe whatever lives on that bus as
>> named components.
>>
>> That way, you will not have to change the OS at all, so your hardware
>> will not only be supported in linux v5.7+, it will also be supported
>> by OSes that commercial distro vendors are shipping today. *That* is
>> the whole point of using ACPI.
>>
>> If you are going to bother and modify the OS, you lose this advantage,
>> and ACPI gives you no benefit over DT at all.
> 
> You beat me to it, but thanks for the clarification Ard.  No where in
> the SBSA spec that I have read does it state that only PCIe devices
> are supported by the SMMU.  It uses PCIe devices as an example, but
> the SMMU section is very generic in term and only says "devices".
> 
> I feel the SBSA omission of SerDes best practices is an oversight in
> the standard and something that probably needs to be revisited.
> Forcing high speed networking interfaces to be hung off a bus just for
> the sake of having a "standard" PCIe interface seems like a step
> backward in this regard.  I would much rather have the Spec include a
> common standard that could be exposed in a consistent manner.  But
> this is a conversation for a different place.

Just to clarify further, it's not about serdes or high-speed networking 
per se - describing a fixed-function network adapter as a named 
component is entirely within scope. The issue is when the hardware is 
merely a pool of accelerator components that can be dynamically 
configured at runtime into something that looks like one or more 
'virtual' network adapters - there is no standard interface for *that* 
for SBSA to consider.

Robin.

> 
> I will work with NXP and find a better way to implement this.
> 
> -Jon
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-31 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-28  8:08 [PATCH] bus: fsl-mc: Add ACPI support for fsl-mc Makarand Pawagi
2020-01-28 10:58 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-28 11:09 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-01-31 10:35   ` [EXT] " Makarand Pawagi
2020-01-31 11:06     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-01-31 11:06     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-31 12:01       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-01-31 12:28         ` Jon Nettleton
2020-01-31 12:48           ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2020-01-31 13:11             ` Jon Nettleton
2020-01-31 13:29               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-01-31 13:39               ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-31 14:29                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-31 14:47                   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 15:09                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-31 15:14                       ` Jon Nettleton
2020-01-31 15:41                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-31 15:39                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-31 15:15                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-31 15:40                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-01 11:49                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-02-01 17:36                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-14 15:05         ` Pankaj Bansal
2020-02-14 15:54           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 15:58             ` Pankaj Bansal
2020-02-14 16:19               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-02-14 16:35                 ` Pankaj Bansal
2020-02-14 17:49                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-02-17 12:35                     ` Pankaj Bansal
2020-02-17 15:25                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-02-17 15:35                         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-17 16:26                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-02-18  8:02                         ` Pankaj Bansal (OSS)
2020-02-14 16:29               ` Robin Murphy

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