From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Huw Hawkins Subject: RE: Re: making progress with ACPI was: ACPI small patch up date Date: 30 Oct 2002 03:17:54 +0100 Sender: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Message-ID: <1035944274.1275.32.camel@U414> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: Errors-To: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org > We can fix bugs, the problem is *diagnosing* the issue. There's only so much > diagnosis that can be done without the hardware. If you say "line 444 of > ec.c is acquiring a semaphore at interrupt level" that's probably enough. If > you post a patch, we'll apply it. If you just say "my system hangs" then > it's a lot harder. Sometimes the dmesg or DSDT are enough that other people > can suss out what might be the problem -- sometimes not. I've given this some though. What you're trying to say, basically, is the sf bugtracker isn't suitable because you need at least a DSDT/dmesg with the bug report and preferably access to ask further questions, so unless someone has that implimented in a bug-track system (with hosting to match) it's a nightmarish task. > Part of this whole open source "gift" economy is that it's polite to not > turn one's nose up a gift. Even if it wasn't all that you wanted. And > especially if you haven't reciprocated. Owch. Personally I've tried to submit what patches/bugreports/information I could. Usually, I'm not sure if its helpful, whether its important or got missed in the rush. To me ACPI-development is a "black-box" system. You post something to the list and either get a flaming, a pat on the head, a useful bit of help or dead silence. Other projects have roadmaps, FAQ's, etc to at least give people the option to inform themselves as to whats a priority, why bugtracking is a mailling list or what's currently being neglected. A few lines of html might save constant "are you insane, it'd be easier if.." and "why isn't...." threads when you've thought it through and have good reasons others might not immediately otherwise see. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf