From: David Moore <dcm-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
To: Dominik Brodowski <linux-JhLEnvuH02M@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>,
Ducrot Bruno <ducrot-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Grover
<andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"Adachi,
Kenichi"
<adachi-fvZ7ij+YLgEZc9YY0SgeQc8NsWr+9BEh@public.gmane.org>,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
cpufreq list <cpufreq-1walMZg8u8rXmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [ACPI] _PDC method in DSDT
Date: 23 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1056417280.10323.148.camel@aldebaran.caltech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030623213726.GA1317-JhLEnvuH02M@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:37, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
>
> Firstly, please let me explain the goal of the cpufreq project: it is a
> cross-architecture, _generic framework_ which provides
Thanks for your explanation. My fault was that I was too busy looking
at 2.4.21-ac1 and I didn't realize cpufreq had matured a lot in the
development series and resolved the duplication between it and the ACPI
drivers.
> Because of this, the ACPI P-States driver became a "cpufreq driver" in the
> _development_ series -- see arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi.c in latest
> 2.5. kernels.
>
Yes, I see that now. That looks like exactly the right way to do it.
> IMO the ACPI P-States driver should only include the ACPI 2.0 P-States driver,
> and not try to support all other sorts of legacy support and become one
> "mega-driver". Instead, the other information stored in _PCT you talk about
> should be available to other processor-specific cpufreq drivers which see
> a need to obtain this information -- ACPI as a library, available to those
> who want it.
>
I see your rationale for wanting the P-state driver to be ACPI 2.0-only,
but I think there is some advantage to adding Enhanced Speedstep support
to i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi.c rather than just added ACPI query
capabilities to speedstep-centrino.c:
speedstep-centrino.c is very picky about the precise CPU because its
tables are hard-coded with no margin for error. With ACPI, the test for
Enhanced Speedstep would be more general:
if cpu_has(cpu, X86_FEATURE_EST) is true, and after calling _PDC, if
_PTC returns FFH registers, then treat those registers as MSRs instead
of IO ports. Thus, it supports any Enhanced Speedstep hardware with a
correct BIOS, not just the ones enumerated by speedstep-centrino.c.
I guess my main point is that in order for speedstep-centrino.c to call
ACPI as a library, it would basically need to use every function already
written in acpi.c. Why not just dispatch the wrmsr() from acpi.c rather
than the other way around? It would take probably a 15-line patch to
add Enhanced Speedstep support to acpi.c, but probably would be much
more complicated to query ACPI from speedstep-centrino.c. For AMD and
Transmeta processors, there would be no point in specific support for
them in acpi.c since ACPI doesn't really provide useful information for
their performance control anyway.
-David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-06-24 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-23 9:19 [ACPI] _PDC method in DSDT Grover, Andrew
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2003-06-23 13:38 ` Dominik Brodowski
[not found] ` <20030623133834.GA2330-JhLEnvuH02M@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-23 16:11 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20030623161136.GG19556-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-23 17:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <1056388336.15250.62.camel-Ir80B/JpJuPj/dU0+sc/eg@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-23 20:02 ` David Moore
[not found] ` <1056398545.10322.111.camel-cfibRQahR+cF6I9xFAAkN5QCsf4PZ8us@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-23 21:37 ` Dominik Brodowski
[not found] ` <20030623213726.GA1317-JhLEnvuH02M@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-24 1:14 ` David Moore [this message]
[not found] ` <1056417280.10323.148.camel-cfibRQahR+cF6I9xFAAkN5QCsf4PZ8us@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-24 1:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <1056418635.5977.20.camel-8CPiehpM6Y7yyrDBriEPRMdZPGv2U8no@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-24 2:02 ` David Moore
[not found] ` <1056420149.10322.160.camel-cfibRQahR+cF6I9xFAAkN5QCsf4PZ8us@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-24 2:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-06-24 9:18 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20030624091836.GI19556-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-24 21:47 ` David Moore
[not found] ` <1056491271.3979.15.camel-cfibRQahR+cF6I9xFAAkN5QCsf4PZ8us@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-26 10:40 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20030626104041.GR19556-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-26 11:13 ` Ducrot Bruno
2003-09-04 23:19 ` [RFC] cpufreq: use new acpi processor perflib in speedstep-centrino [Was: Re: [ACPI] _PDC method in DSDT] Dominik Brodowski
[not found] ` <20030904231932.GA8518-JhLEnvuH02M@public.gmane.org>
2003-09-05 16:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2003-06-23 7:11 [ACPI] _PDC method in DSDT Grover, Andrew
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2003-06-23 7:53 ` David Moore
[not found] ` <1056354807.10323.71.camel-cfibRQahR+cF6I9xFAAkN5QCsf4PZ8us@public.gmane.org>
2003-06-23 12:27 ` Ducrot Bruno
2003-06-23 13:42 ` Dominik Brodowski
2003-06-23 7:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-23 13:44 ` Dominik Brodowski
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