From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Len Brown Subject: [Fwd: Stability fixes only, _please_] Date: 09 Oct 2003 14:42:50 -0400 Sender: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Message-ID: <1065724970.2507.60.camel@dhcppc4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-tMPTiMLMjrEDy3vAPxRu" Return-path: Errors-To: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org --=-tMPTiMLMjrEDy3vAPxRu Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the event you haven't see Linus's request to include bug-fixes only in 2.6.0 from here on out. I think that: 1. if bugzilla entries are associated with each patch, that will help make the case. 2. I should probably to create a linux-acpi-test-2.6.1 tree now to hold stuff that will need to wait for that release to open. thanks, -Len --=-tMPTiMLMjrEDy3vAPxRu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Stability fixes only, _please_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from hdsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.127.2.60]) by hdsmsx402.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:15:41 -0400 Received: from fmsmsx312.amr.corp.intel.com ([132.233.42.227]) by hdsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:15:41 -0400 Received: from scsmsx402.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.3.90.16]) by fmsmsx312.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:15:32 -0700 Received: from scsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.3.90.6]) by scsmsx402.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:15:32 -0700 Received: from scsmsxvs041.sc.intel.com ([10.3.90.10]) by scsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:15:32 -0700 Received: from petasus.sc.intel.com ([10.3.253.4]) by scsmsxvs041.sc.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2003100813153003887 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:15:30 -0700 Received: from caduceus.sc.intel.com (caduceus.sc.intel.com [10.3.252.4]) by petasus.sc.intel.com (8.11.6-20030918-01/8.11.6/d: inner.mc,v 1.35 2003/05/22 21:18:01 rfjohns1 Exp $) with ESMTP id h98KDoJ18659 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:50 GMT Received: from mail.osdl.org (fw.osdl.org [65.172.181.6]) by caduceus.sc.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.9/d: outer.mc,v 1.66 2003/05/22 21:17:36 rfjohns1 Exp $) with ESMTP id h98KFn93026556 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:15:50 GMT Received: from localhost (build.pdx.osdl.net [172.20.1.2]) by mail.osdl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98KDg119975; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:13:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: David Miller , Randy Dunlap , Andrea Arcangeli , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Dave Jones , Dave Kleikamp , David Mosberger , Greg KH , Ingo Molnar , James Bottomley , Jaroslav Kysela , Jeff Garzik , Len Brown , Nick Piggin , Patrick Mochel , Paul Mackerras , Russell King , Rusty Russell , Sam Ravnborg , Steve Lord , Stephen Hemminger , Trond Myklebust , Vojtech Pavlik , Andrew Morton cc: Architectures Group Subject: Stability fixes only, _please_ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.31 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Return-Path: torvalds-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2003 20:15:32.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECF81700:01C38DD8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ The recipient list is a list of people who I have merged with through BK fairly recently or are otherwise active (or are just a result of random grepping on my mailbox and/or the changelog). The BK side is particularly important, since unlike patches, with BK I can't just select the parts I want. ] I just released 2.6.0-test7, and I'm _really_ hoping to calm down development by the end of October. The test-releases have been about two weeks apart, and they've been about half a megabyte of patches PER WEEK. Thst just isn't conductive to stabilization, because even if most of the patches end up being fairly simple, it means that there are a LOT of simple patches, and inevitably some of them have unintentional side effects (*). In the 2.6.0-test7 release notes for the kernel mailing list, I said: The more interesting thing is that I and Andrew are trying to calm down development, and I do _not_ want to see patches that don't fix a real and clear bug. In other words, the "cleanup and janitorial" stuff is on hold, and -test8 and then -test9 should be for _stability_ fixes only. In other words, this should calm things down so that by the end of October we can look at the state of 2.6.0 without having a lot of noise from "not strictly necessary" stuff. and I _really_ need your help for this to work. In particular, it means that you shouldn't point me to BK trees that may have a real bug fix, but also have other noncritical stuff in them. And you should _not_ spend any time at all doing cleanups. Zero. If you work for a Linux company, and your manager asks you to do cleanups, please put some poison in his morning cereal. Or something (if you like your manager - hah - just tell him why you shouldn't do cleanups). And if you see a bug, and there is an ugly but _immediate_ fix for it, do the ugly and immediate thing instead of trying to clean it up. Add a "FIXME!" comment if that makes your conscience feel better, but don't bother trying to do the clean thing that touches something else too. Please. Spread the word to "your guys" too, ok? Linus (*) Euphemism of the day. They are buggy, or even if "perfect" they may trigger a bug somewhere else. And even if they are perfect works of art, they distract us from what should matter now: the pure stability work. --=-tMPTiMLMjrEDy3vAPxRu-- ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php