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From: Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Timo Hoenig <thoenig-dCxI//HcOdFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Karol Kozimor <sziwan-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>,
	Luming Yu <luming.yu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	toshiba_acpi-7wiBuN1tZDdg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	vojtech-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org
Cc: Stelian Pop <stelian-ibX4/ixPftWsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>,
	ACPI Developers
	<acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: generic ACPI video and hotkey drivers vs. platform-specific drivers
Date: 03 Mar 2005 16:08:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1109884125.2102.781.camel@d845pe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1109844371.4866.31.camel-dCxI//HcOdFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>

It is great that programmers -- sometimes with little or no
vendor support -- have come up with platform specific
drivers to make things work on their boxes. But
this is only a stepping stone to where we need to be,
for building special drivers for every platform is not
a solution of first choice, it is a solution of last resort.

The total number of systems already deployed and those
in the pipeline is very large when you account for all
the models from all the vendors -- and this number is
increasing, not decreasing.  If we lead the distros
down this path they will get crushed in a support mess.

As I've said before, it is fine with me for exotic drivers
to handle exotic hardware -- nobody wants to muck-up generic
code for a few exotics.  But we need a design where
standard systems we've never heard of "just work";
and we need to make the use, administration, and support
of exotic systems as much like standard sytems
as possible.

I believe that Bruno's generic video driver (in tree)
is a step in this direction.  I believe that Luming's
generic hot key driver (on list, but not yet in tree)
is a step in this direction.  Are either of these
"final"?  heck no, but I'm confident that they're
heading us in the right direction.

I plan to pull Luming's hot-key driver into the ACPI patch
soon -- the only reason we didnt' do it earlyer is because
the previous version would have immediately broken the
existing platform specific drivers...

We also need to think about the kernel<->user interface
we've currently got.

We need to think through the suggestion that hot keys
should appear to Linux like other keyboard keys -- and
wind their way throught the input layer.  I think the important
thing will be what the user or administrator has to do in
order to map which keys to which functions; and if this
can work automatically without a call to 1-800-distro.
Hopefully we can leverage the stuff people use for keyboard
special keys already.

thanks for your support,
-Len




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-03 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-23  9:53 [patch 11/12] new sony_acpi driver akpm-3NddpPZAyC0
     [not found] ` <200502230953.j1N9rPLp020723-bipKiLWnuIsyyg0EjBt7GtHuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-02 19:12   ` Len Brown
2005-03-02 20:53     ` Stelian Pop
     [not found]       ` <20050302205324.GA5486-/EcPb+iqZQprbWk4mQFQhaxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-03  8:40         ` Timo Hoenig
     [not found]           ` <1109839245.4866.10.camel-dCxI//HcOdFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-03  9:39             ` Stelian Pop
     [not found]               ` <20050303093949.GB3346-KwDxFO93HejPHUqn3ntIkQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-03 10:06                 ` Timo Hoenig
     [not found]                   ` <1109844371.4866.31.camel-dCxI//HcOdFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-03 21:08                     ` Len Brown [this message]
2005-03-04  9:34                       ` generic ACPI video and hotkey drivers vs. platform-specific drivers Timo Hoenig
2005-03-06 10:45                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20050306104506.GM3485-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11  4:07                           ` =?gb18030?q?Ois=A8=AAn_Mac_Fheara=A8=AA?=
     [not found]                             ` <200503110407.50728.destynova-iUB+o6dfpG8i1yMB4YHZDQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 17:43                               ` Stefan Seyfried
     [not found]                                 ` <20050311174346.GA21611-l0tNAEGuAhhzZ8+rp42Dbp9+tswZ0GTaehPwdyo5hKaELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 21:23                                   ` =?gb18030?q?Ois=A8=AAn_Mac_Fheara=A8=AA?=

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