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* RE: [ACPI] Re: [2.5.50, ACPI] link error
@ 2002-12-09 19:12 Grover, Andrew
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From: Grover, Andrew @ 2002-12-09 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Ducrot Bruno', Pavel Machek
  Cc: Ducrot Bruno, Patrick Mochel, kernel list, ACPI mailing list

> From: Ducrot Bruno [mailto:poup-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org] 

> > I think that s4bios is nice to have. Its similar to S3 and easier to
> > set up than swsusp... It would be nice to have it.
> 
> for me:
> pros:
> -----
> 1- it is really really more easier to implement than S4;
> 2- we can even have it with 2.4 kernels (it seems that it work without
> the need of freezing processes, but I suspect that this statement
> is 'wrong' by nature).
> 
> cons:
> -----
> 1- it is much slower (especially at save time) than your swsusp;
> 2- end users must setup their systems (need to create a 
> suspend partition,
> or to keep a vfat partition as the really first one (/dev/hda1));
> 3- we use a bios function.  Actually, everything can happen...
> 
> That why I prefer swsusp at this time, or any other 
> implementation of S4 (I
> think about an implementation of S4 via LKCD).

I concur with your pros and cons. This makes me think that if S4BIOS support
ever gets added, it should get added to 2.4 only.

Regards -- Andy

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* RE: [ACPI] Dell i8k was: Re: [2.5.50, ACPI] link error
@ 2002-12-11 16:40 Moore, Robert
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Moore, Robert @ 2002-12-11 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Andrew McGregor', Pavel Machek, Alan Cox
  Cc: Grover, Andrew, 'Ducrot Bruno', Ducrot Bruno,
	Patrick Mochel, Linux Kernel Mailing List, ACPI mailing list


The problem is related to this message:

    ACPI-0189: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML

I have a patch for the oops caused by this, but there may be an additional
underlying problem where the AML is causing a zero length buffer to be
created.

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew McGregor [mailto:andrew-Rd3uoDiDeHXJKwlM9GxbOw@public.gmane.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:45 PM
To: Pavel Machek; Alan Cox
Cc: Grover, Andrew; 'Ducrot Bruno'; Ducrot Bruno; Patrick Mochel; Linux
Kernel Mailing List; ACPI mailing list
Subject: Re: [ACPI] Dell i8k was: Re: [2.5.50, ACPI] link error

Hmm, when I boot 2.5.51 w/ACPI on it with a battery installed, it panics. 
By booting without and then inserting the battery, I got the attached oops. 
See also the messages in the dmesg output.

Andrew

--On Wednesday, December 11, 2002 09:50:48 +1300 Andrew McGregor 
<andrew-Rd3uoDiDeHXJKwlM9GxbOw@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I strongly suspect that s4bios will work on this machine, but swsusp
> won't. Why?  It's a Dell Inspiron 8000 with an NVidia Geforce2go, and
> until NVidia put pm support in their driver, it's game over for Linux.
> Except that the BIOS knows how to suspend it, so some kernel/driver
> combinations work with APM.  I suspect any Geforce2go Dell is the same.
>
> Andrew
>
> --On Tuesday, December 10, 2002 21:40:31 +0100 Pavel Machek
> <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> > I concur with your pros and cons. This makes me think that if S4BIOS
>>> > support ever gets added, it should get added to 2.4 only.
>>
>> And S4BIOS will never get added to 2.4 since it needs driver model
>> :-(.
>>
>>> That assumes no box exists where S4bios works an S4 doesnt (eg due to
>>> bad tables or "knowing" what other-os does)
>>
>> We have full control over S4 (== swsusp), so we can fix that in most
>> cases.
>>
>> S4BIOS is still little friendlier to the user -- no need to set up
>> swap partition and command line parameter, can't go wrong if you boot
>> without resume=, etc.
>> 								Pavel
>>
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