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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 2.6.21-rc4-mm1 + 4 hotfixes -- BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 6b6b6ceb -- EIP is at module_put+0x7/0x1f
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:39:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175060366.10661.13.camel@sli10-conroe.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070328052706.GA9459@kroah.com>

On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 22:27 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:13:56PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 21:51 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:27:19PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:19:58 -0700 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:52:33AM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > > > > +static void cpuidle_state_sysfs_release(struct kobject *kobj)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	/* Nothing required to do here, just workaround kobject warning*/
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > 
> > > > > NO!!!
> > > > 
> > > > heh.  This happens rather a lot.
> > > >  
> > > > > Do people think that I add warnings to the kernel so that people can
> > > > > just work around them by passing empty functions to the driver core?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sometimes I wonder why I even try...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please fix this code, it is wrong.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is it documented anywhere?  I always forget the reasoning so I have to
> > > > cc you each time I see it happening.
> > > 
> > > The fact that the kernel itself spits out a message saying:
> > > 	"Device '%s' does not have a release() function, it is broken
> > > 	and must be fixed."
> > > 
> > > isn't enough?  What should I change it to, something like this:
> > > 
> > > 	"Device '%s' does not have a release() function, it is broken
> > > 	and must be fixed, and if you just provide an empty function to
> > > 	remove this warning, rabid echidnas will track you down and
> > > 	puncture your spleen."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The reason for this is that the device is a reference counted object,
> > > and you have to free the memory in the release function, otherwise you
> > > can easily be accessing memory that is freed already.
> > > 
> > > Now note, this patch used a completion function to wait for the object
> > > to be destroyed, which isn't the nicest.  But if you are going to do
> > > this, do it in the release function, like the code did a bit earlier.
> > > 
> > > And if you are doing this because you have two kobjects in the same
> > > structure, well, your code is so messed up beyond belief that it needs
> > > to be fixed.  And yes scsi developers, I'm pointing at you...
> > The two kobjects will be removed in the maintime. As I wait for one
> > object to be destroyed (the two objects are in one structure, and one
> > object's release will free the memory), we haven't the 'using freed
> > memory' issue here. Do we still need a .release for the kobject you
> > pointed out?
> 
> Putting more than one kobject in the same structure is a broken design.
> How can you control the lifetime rules properly if there are two
> reference counts for the same structure?  It doesn't work.
> 
> If you really need something like this, then just use a pointer to a
> kobject for one of them instead of embedding it.  Why do you need two
> different kobjects here?
Our data structure is something like below:

struct foo {
	kobject kobja;
}

struct bar {
	struct foo foo[];
	kobject kobjb
}

kobjb's .release will free struct bar. kobjb is the parent of kobja. if
you have a reference on kobja, then kobjb can't be released too, right?
So we only kobjb provide a .release to free the memory, kobja's .release
isn't required.

Thanks,
Shaohua

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-28  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-22 17:52 Fw: Re: 2.6.21-rc4-mm1 + 4 hotfixes -- BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 6b6b6ceb -- EIP is at module_put+0x7/0x1f Andrew Morton
2007-03-23  2:04 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-23  5:16   ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  3:52     ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-28  4:19       ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  4:27         ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-28  4:51           ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  5:09             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-28  5:15               ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  5:13             ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-28  5:27               ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  5:39                 ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2007-03-28  5:58                   ` Greg KH
2007-03-28  6:49                     ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-29  8:16                       ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-30  5:18                       ` Greg KH
2007-03-30  6:33                         ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-30  7:05                           ` Greg KH
2007-03-30  7:08                             ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-30  7:51                               ` Greg KH
2007-03-30  7:55                                 ` Shaohua Li

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