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From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Jordan Crouse <jordan.crouse@amd.com>,
	devel@laptop.org, "linux-acpi@vger" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Power Mangement Interfaces
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:23:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175509422.5321.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703312001.55231.david-b@pacbell.net>

On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:01 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> > This looks very good, and is pretty close to what I was proposing.  
> > Replace the acpi_*_event() calls with a generic pm_ infrastructure, and
> > add hooks to the pm_ops for each individual PM system to handle the wakeups
> > in whatever way they see fit, and we're there.  It would be slightly more
> > complex for AT91 and friends to match this (since they have the advantage
> > of a 1:1 mapping right now), but in the long run, I think everybody would
> > benefit.
> 
> I guess I don't see why this isn't already sufficiently generic ...
> 
> As a rule, all those embedded drivers are platform-specific and have
> no need for more than a few enable_irq_wake() calls, in addition to
> whatever controller setup and clock management they do.  Since they
> can't be very portable, they don't need to generalize such stuff.
> 
> And for PCI based things, pci_enable_wake() encapsulates everything
> that needs doing.  Not that ACPI actually *does* anything yet!  But
> the stuff that writing /proc/acpi/wakeup enables should happen in that
> routine ... and eventually PCI runtime wake events should work too.
> (So:  no drivers would ever call ACPI directly, and they already have
> the generic call that ACPI should hook.)
> 
> That seems to cover most drivers in Linux, without a need for any
> new generic PM infrastructure.  Did I overlook something important?
> 
> 
> > The only other issue then, is how we could define and manage wakeup events
> > for events that aren't associated with specific devices, like power button
> > and lid events.  We'll need some way to control those somewhere in sysfs -
> > if not in /sys/power/wakeup like I had proposed, then somewhere under the
> > platform or system hierarchy .
> 
> I see /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/button_power:00 on this system; and
> /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/device:00/PNP0C0D:00 has path \_SB_.LID_ ...
> such device nodes already exist, even though they're not really hooked
> up to anything much.  Notably, their "wakeup" state is not initialized.
> 
That's right.
This is meaningless now and we don't intend to use it in the future.
If a device is also described in ACPI namespace, it should know its ACPI
device node in sysfs.
Then when we want to enable/disable a deivce's wakeup ability, just goto
the physical device node in sysfs. What we need is a hook offered by
ACPI device driver.
> And while it seems that the three USB controllers on this system show up
> as /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/device:{01,02,03} I
> have no idea which one is /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.2 versus
> 0000:00:02.1 or 0000:00:02.0 ... I know that USB0 is device:01 and so
> on (by reading "path"), but associating one with a PCI device seems to
> involve pure guesswork.
> 
Sorry to make you confused.
That's what we need to improve in the wish list. :)

Thanks,
Rui

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-02 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-30 23:57 Power Mangement Interfaces Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31  0:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  0:21   ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  4:33     ` [linux-pm] " Gopi P.M.
2007-03-31 15:20     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 16:12     ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 15:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  7:38     ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-03-31 16:57   ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 16:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 18:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 18:57     ` David Brownell
2007-04-01  1:01       ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01  3:01         ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 16:56           ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02  0:28             ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 16:55               ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 17:53                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:46                 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:26                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:03                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:31                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 20:15                           ` Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09  2:44                               ` David Brownell
2007-07-09  8:34                                 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 15:40                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 16:26                                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-10  2:45                                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 16:51                                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 22:16                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  0:45                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  0:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:23                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  1:39                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11  1:59                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11  3:14                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:09                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:31                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 16:04                                           ` David Brownell
2007-07-11 22:48                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-08  3:49                 ` [PATCH] rtc-cmos: use cmos_rtc_board_info to determine wake_on callback Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:06                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08  3:55                 ` [PATCH] OLPC rtc-cmos support Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08  5:13                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 18:40                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:10                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 20:47                           ` David Brownell
2007-06-19 17:00               ` Power Mangement Interfaces Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 19:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:41                 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-06-21  1:30                 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:10                   ` [PATCH] add powerbutton and lid platform devices Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 15:05                     ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:30                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:36                         ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-16  8:51                         ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 17:11                       ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-04-02 10:23           ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2007-04-02 18:24             ` Power Mangement Interfaces David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-02 21:31                 ` David Brownell
2007-04-05  8:20               ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 10:07       ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 19:14     ` Jim Gettys
2007-04-02  9:36 ` Zhang Rui

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