From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Jordan Crouse <jordan.crouse@amd.com>,
devel@laptop.org, "linux-acpi@vger" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Power Mangement Interfaces
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:23:42 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175509422.5321.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703312001.55231.david-b@pacbell.net>
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:01 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> > This looks very good, and is pretty close to what I was proposing.
> > Replace the acpi_*_event() calls with a generic pm_ infrastructure, and
> > add hooks to the pm_ops for each individual PM system to handle the wakeups
> > in whatever way they see fit, and we're there. It would be slightly more
> > complex for AT91 and friends to match this (since they have the advantage
> > of a 1:1 mapping right now), but in the long run, I think everybody would
> > benefit.
>
> I guess I don't see why this isn't already sufficiently generic ...
>
> As a rule, all those embedded drivers are platform-specific and have
> no need for more than a few enable_irq_wake() calls, in addition to
> whatever controller setup and clock management they do. Since they
> can't be very portable, they don't need to generalize such stuff.
>
> And for PCI based things, pci_enable_wake() encapsulates everything
> that needs doing. Not that ACPI actually *does* anything yet! But
> the stuff that writing /proc/acpi/wakeup enables should happen in that
> routine ... and eventually PCI runtime wake events should work too.
> (So: no drivers would ever call ACPI directly, and they already have
> the generic call that ACPI should hook.)
>
> That seems to cover most drivers in Linux, without a need for any
> new generic PM infrastructure. Did I overlook something important?
>
>
> > The only other issue then, is how we could define and manage wakeup events
> > for events that aren't associated with specific devices, like power button
> > and lid events. We'll need some way to control those somewhere in sysfs -
> > if not in /sys/power/wakeup like I had proposed, then somewhere under the
> > platform or system hierarchy .
>
> I see /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/button_power:00 on this system; and
> /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/device:00/PNP0C0D:00 has path \_SB_.LID_ ...
> such device nodes already exist, even though they're not really hooked
> up to anything much. Notably, their "wakeup" state is not initialized.
>
That's right.
This is meaningless now and we don't intend to use it in the future.
If a device is also described in ACPI namespace, it should know its ACPI
device node in sysfs.
Then when we want to enable/disable a deivce's wakeup ability, just goto
the physical device node in sysfs. What we need is a hook offered by
ACPI device driver.
> And while it seems that the three USB controllers on this system show up
> as /sys/devices/acpi_system:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/device:{01,02,03} I
> have no idea which one is /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.2 versus
> 0000:00:02.1 or 0000:00:02.0 ... I know that USB0 is device:01 and so
> on (by reading "path"), but associating one with a PCI device seems to
> involve pure guesswork.
>
Sorry to make you confused.
That's what we need to improve in the wish list. :)
Thanks,
Rui
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-02 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-30 23:57 Power Mangement Interfaces Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 0:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31 0:21 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31 4:33 ` [linux-pm] " Gopi P.M.
2007-03-31 15:20 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 16:12 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 15:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 7:38 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-03-31 16:57 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 16:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 18:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 18:57 ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 1:01 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01 3:01 ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 16:56 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 0:28 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 16:55 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 17:53 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 3:46 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:17 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:31 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 20:15 ` Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 2:44 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 8:34 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 15:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 16:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 2:45 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 16:51 ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 22:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 0:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 0:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 1:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 3:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 16:04 ` David Brownell
2007-07-11 22:48 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-08 3:49 ` [PATCH] rtc-cmos: use cmos_rtc_board_info to determine wake_on callback Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:06 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 3:55 ` [PATCH] OLPC rtc-cmos support Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:13 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 18:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:10 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 20:47 ` David Brownell
2007-06-19 17:00 ` Power Mangement Interfaces Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 19:17 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:41 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-06-21 1:30 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:10 ` [PATCH] add powerbutton and lid platform devices Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 15:05 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:30 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:36 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-16 8:51 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 17:11 ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-04-02 10:23 ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2007-04-02 18:24 ` Power Mangement Interfaces David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-02 21:31 ` David Brownell
2007-04-05 8:20 ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 10:07 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 19:14 ` Jim Gettys
2007-04-02 9:36 ` Zhang Rui
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