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From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: "Éric Piel" <Eric.Piel@tremplin-utc.net>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Tilman Schmidt" <tilman@imap.cc>,
	"Dave Hansen" <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Markus Gaugusch" <dsdt@gaugusch.at>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:28:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206023299.21619.358.camel@queen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803181632.44288.lenb@kernel.org>

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 16:32 -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> > > The initrd version of the DSDT override is really for one scenario.
> > > Somebody who has a BIOS that even Windows can't deal with -- so
> > > no amount of "Windows bug compatbility" will help Linux with it.
> 
> > No, this is for people getting involved in ACPI.
> > Everybody thinks ACPI is that complicated..., but it's not.
> > It's amazing how far people can debug ACPI bugs (yes, even people who
> > "do not even know" how to compile a kernel) by simply analyzing the ASL
> > BIOS code.
> 
> Thomas,
> The justification above is what convinced me
> that we should try to integrate this feature.
> Further, although we failed in 2.6.25,
> I think we should continue to try to get this capability integrated.
> 
> If you think it will be useful for additional purposes, that's great.
> As you know, I'm somewhat skeptical, as I've seen huge mistakes such
> as a database of modified BIOS images created and used when the users
> have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
But even here we now have the only existing database for some research.
-> very important IMO.
> But we don't have to
> agree on this to move forward.
I think we fully agree.
I don't mind to add a message in big letters: "Only override the DSDT
for debugging, please report any findings" or whatever, we can add this
ten times in a row, still it is an important feature which is worth
pushing (and getting populate_root_fs being able to be executed earlier
is a feature others also like to see AFAIK).

    Thomas


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080311011434.ad8c8d7d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-12  1:14 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Dave Young
     [not found] ` <47D87238.8080305@imap.cc>
     [not found]   ` <20080313183439.GA12798@suse.de>
2008-03-13 19:57     ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] WARNING: at drivers/base/sys.c:173 Dave Jones
     [not found]   ` <20080313195656.GA32463@codemonkey.org.uk>
2008-03-14  0:01     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14  0:44       ` Dave Jones
2008-03-14  0:57       ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-14  9:58         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 12:16         ` Tilman Schmidt
     [not found] ` <47D86D43.2060108@imap.cc>
     [not found]   ` <1205441216.4971.65.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
     [not found]     ` <47D9C853.3040701@imap.cc>
     [not found]       ` <1205517802.12763.18.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
2008-03-14 20:06         ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-14 20:51           ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 21:35             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 22:50               ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 23:29                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-15 12:47                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 19:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-15 19:42                       ` Éric Piel
2008-03-15 20:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16  0:15                           ` Éric Piel
2008-03-17 17:27                             ` Len Brown
     [not found]                               ` <1205858252.21619.233.camel@queen.suse.de>
2008-03-18 20:32                                 ` Len Brown
2008-03-20 14:28                                   ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2008-03-17 17:59                           ` Len Brown
2008-03-21 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 16:00                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 16:03                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:05                                 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-24 17:19                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:23                                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-27  9:23                               ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-17 18:05                         ` Len Brown
2008-03-16 20:11                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-17 12:23                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-19 23:50                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 17:48                 ` Len Brown

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