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From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Richard <tuxbox.guru@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Adam M Belay <abelay@mit.edu>,
	Li Shaohua <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Matthieu Castet <castet.matthieu@free.fr>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25 pci=noacpi
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 12:19:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210155584.13141.22.camel@queen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481B12FE.1050805@gmail.com>

On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 14:11 +0100, Richard wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 May 2008 12:23:01 +0100 Richard <tuxbox.guru@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Len Brown wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Thursday 01 May 2008, Richard wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Len Brown wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> On Tuesday 29 April 2008, Richard wrote:
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now I am at a loss.. I cant get any logs from netconsole. With ACPI
> >>>>>> enabled it drops dead just after the kernel hands control to Init. When
> >>>>>> I reboot with acpi disabled there is no trace of the previous boot in
> >>>>>> /var/log/message or kernel logs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The network card I have is a Tigon3 and its not initialised before the
> >>>>>> system dies... or so it looks (altho I cant seem to get any netconsole
> >>>>>> working - I suspect pebkac)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried to find an option where the kernel boot is logged
> >>>>>> explicitly to disk, but I cant seem to find the option. There is so much
> >>>>>> chaff I cant seem to get my brain to find the REAL options list thats up
> >>>>>> to date.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any pointers are appreciated
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> go fishing with this bait:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> idle=poll
> >>>>> acpi=noirq
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Len
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> Thanks :-) With help from Thomas (and his team) , noapictimer seems to
> >>>> have fixed the symptom.. now its to hunt for the cure :-)
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> if the problem is the apic timer stopping during C-states,
> >>> then you should find that idle=poll will also work around the problem.
> >>> If idle=poll does not work around it but noapictimer does, then
> >>> the problem is the apic timer when the system is non-idle.
> >>>
> >>> -Len
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Hi Len,
> >>
> >> thanks - the idle=poll works to fix the problem.
> >>     
> >
> > Well, that's hardly a "fix".  The power consumption will be very high.
> >
> >   
> Hehehe, its a start. A booting kernel is definitely a good start (even 
> one what drinks battery). I have some avenues in the source to 
> investigate, but being a ACPI n00bie its trying to get my head around 
> the mass of code thats a daunting task.

Richard, could you try processor.max_cstate=2 (or even 1), pls (without
noapictimer).
Or you can double check whether you have cstates at all first(when
booting with noapictimer):
cat /proc/acpi/processor/*/power

Vendors often invalidate deeper sleep states with an invalid latency.
Maybe this has been forgotten here, Windows does not use deeper C-state
or it works there for some reason.
If this works for you, please send dmidecode output.
IMO we should then blacklist this machine in
drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c to not use the offending sleep state.
There already is a blacklist.

Thanks,

   Thomas


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-07 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-25 18:38 [patch 00/54] PNP cleanup, v4 Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 01/54] PNP: turn on -DDEBUG when CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG is set Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 02/54] ISAPNP: move config register addresses out of isapnp.h Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 03/54] PNPACPI: continue after _CRS and _PRS errors Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 04/54] PNP: make pnp_add_id() internal to PNP core Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 05/54] PNP: change pnp_add_id() to allocate its own pnp_id structures Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 06/54] PNP: add pnp_eisa_id_to_string() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 07/54] PNP: add pnp_alloc_dev() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 08/54] PNP: make pnp_add_card_id() internal to PNP core Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 09/54] PNP: change pnp_add_card_id() to allocate its own pnp_id structures Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 10/54] ISAPNP: pull pnp_add_card_id() out of isapnp_parse_card_id() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 11/54] PNP: add pnp_alloc_card() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 12/54] PNPACPI: pnpacpi_encode_ext_irq() wrongly set "irq" instead of "extended_irq" Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 13/54] PNPACPI: use temporaries to reduce repetition Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 14/54] PNPACPI: hoist dma_flags() out of pnpacpi_parse_allocated_dmaresource() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 15/54] PNPACPI: extend irq_flags() to set IORESOURCE_IRQ_SHAREABLE when appropriate Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 16/54] PNPACPI: pass pnp_dev instead of acpi_handle Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 17/54] PNP: add debug output to option registration Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 18/54] PNP: remove pnp_resource_table from internal get/set interfaces Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 19/54] PNP: remove more pnp_resource_table arguments Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 20/54] PNP: add debug output to encoders Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 21/54] PNP: add debug when assigning PNP resources Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 21:26   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 15:25     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 22/54] PNP: add pnp_init_resources(struct pnp_dev *) interface Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 23/54] PNP: remove pnp_resource_table from internal pnp_clean_resource_table interface Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 24/54] PNP: remove unused interfaces using pnp_resource_table Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 25/54] PNP: use dev_printk when possible Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 26/54] PNP: factor pnp_init_resource_table() and pnp_clean_resource_table() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 21:33   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 17:15     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 27/54] PNP: add pnp_get_resource() interface Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 28/54] PNP: remove pnp_mem_flags() as an lvalue Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 29/54] PNP: convert resource accessors to use pnp_get_resource(), not pnp_resource_table Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 21:42   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 17:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 30/54] PNP: use conventional "i" for loop indices Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 31/54] PNP: reduce redundancy in pnp_assign_port() and others Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 32/54] PNP: reduce redundancy in pnp_check_port() " Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 33/54] PNP: reduce redundancy in pnp_set_current_resources() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 34/54] PNP: check for conflicts with all resources, not just earlier ones Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 35/54] PNP: pass resources, not indexes, to pnp_check_port(), et al Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 36/54] PNP: convert resource checks to use pnp_get_resource(), not pnp_resource_table Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 37/54] PNP: convert encoders " Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 38/54] PNP: remove PNP_MAX_* uses Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 22:10   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 39/54] rtc: dont reference pnp_resource_table directly Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 40/54] PNP: make pnp_resource_table private to PNP core Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 41/54] PNP: remove pnp_resource_table references from resource decoders Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 22:28   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 20:36     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-28 20:41       ` Rene Herman
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 42/54] PNP: add struct pnp_resource Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 43/54] PNP: add pnp_resource index for ISAPNP Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 44/54] PNP: add pnp_new_resource() to find a new unset pnp_resource Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 22:37   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 20:43     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 45/54] PNP: make generic pnp_add_irq_resource() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 46/54] PNP: make generic pnp_add_dma_resource() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 47/54] PNP: make generic pnp_add_io_resource() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 48/54] PNP: make generic pnp_add_mem_resource() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 49/54] PNP: use pnp_get_pnp_resource() in resource assignment functions Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 50/54] ISAPNP: fold isapnp_read_resources() back into isapnp_get_resources() Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 23:07   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 21:07     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-29  6:53       ` 2.6.25 pci=noacpi Richard
2008-04-29  7:04         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-29  7:17           ` Richard
2008-04-29  7:27           ` Richard
2008-04-29 11:01           ` Richard
2008-05-01  5:10             ` Len Brown
2008-05-01  7:09               ` Richard
2008-05-01 15:59                 ` Len Brown
2008-05-02 11:23                   ` Richard
2008-05-02 12:47                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-02 13:11                       ` Richard
2008-05-07 10:19                         ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2008-05-08  7:23                           ` Richard
2008-05-08 11:06                             ` Thomas Renninger
2008-05-08 11:38                               ` Richard
2008-05-08 12:37                                 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-05-04 19:23         ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  6:59           ` Richard
2008-05-08  7:08           ` Richard
2008-05-08 11:50             ` Rene Herman
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 51/54] PNPACPI: move _CRS/_PRS warnings closer to the action Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:38 ` [patch 52/54] PNP: make interfaces private to the PNP core Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:39 ` [patch 53/54] ISAPNP: remove unused pnp_dev->regs field Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-25 18:39 ` [patch 54/54] PNPBIOS: remove include/linux/pnpbios.h Bjorn Helgaas
2008-04-26 23:34 ` [patch 00/54] PNP cleanup, v4 Rene Herman
2008-04-26 23:47   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-28 21:16     ` Bjorn Helgaas

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