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From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Woithe <jwoithe@physics.adelaide.edu.au>
Cc: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, hmh@hmh.eng.br,
	corentincj@iksaif.net, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	dannybaumann@web.de, marcus@better.se, mzxreary@0pointer.de,
	carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk, malattia@linux.it, nokos@gmx.net
Subject: Re: Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:22:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217481771.2969.75.camel@rzhang-dt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807310251.m6V2pXDe027356@turbo.physics.adelaide.edu.au>

On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:51 +0800, Jonathan Woithe wrote:
> > > I'm trying to sort out the status of this myself.  Is the
> expectation
> > > that your patches *with* the IGD work from Matthew/Hong should
> mean that
> > > Fujitsus implementing IGD should not need fujitsu-laptop in order
> to
> > > provide working software backlight brightness control?
> > I think so.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > > Or shouldn't Matthew/Hong's patchset be necessary with your patch
> in
> > > theory?
> > Thomas' patch assigns the responsibility to acpi video driver or
> > platform drivers when a laptop supports brightness/display switch
> both
> > via ACPI video extension and vendor specific control methods.
> >
> > brightness/display switch via ACPI video driver sometimes doesn't
> work
> > even if the ACPI control methods are available, and Matthew/Hong's
> patch
> > fixes this problem, on platforms with intel integrated graphics
> cards.
> 
> I see.
> 
> > And now, we should root cause why acpi_video_backlight_support()
> failed
> > on this laptop.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > > so allowing fujitsu-laptop to co-exist with video.ko handling the
> > > backlight (as your patches allow) is the right thing to do.
> >
> > sure, they will co-exist, but I don't think fujitsu-laptop should
> handle
> > the backlight stuff, unless it's explicitly stated via the boot
> > parameter "acpi_backlight=vendor".
> 
> For laptops with both ACPI video extensions and vendor specific
> control
> methods I agree with this.  However, users of laptops which have only
> vendor
> specific control methods (of which the S7020 is one AFAIK) should not
> have
> to give any boot parameters for things to work for them.

sure.
In this case, acpi_video_backlight_support() returns false,
and vendor driver will handle the backlight switching.

>   In other words,
> "acpi_backlight=vendor" should only come into play when the machine
> has the
> ACPI video extensions.  I am assuming that this is the intention since
> that's what the current patches appear to do.
Yes.
> 
> Is there a canonical source for Matthew/Hong's patch?  To totally wrap
> this
> up I would like to try the S7020 with Matthew/Hong+Thomas.


>   I doubt
> Matthew/Hong's work is relevant to the S7020 given that it's 3+ years
> old
> now, but it's best to test these things early.

Agree.
I think Matthew/Hong's patch should have no effect on your laptops, and
fujistu-laptop should handle the backlight switch as before.

thanks,
rui


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-31  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-16 10:52 Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers - version 2 Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 01/11] ACPI: video: Ignore devices that aren't present in hardware Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 02/11] Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 11:16   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-16 13:01     ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2008-07-17 13:52       ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-18  3:18         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2008-07-18  2:54           ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-18  3:52             ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2008-07-17  6:33   ` Zhao Yakui
2008-08-01  1:27   ` Zhang Rui
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 03/11] Acer-WMI: fingers off backlight if video.ko is serving this functionality Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 17:42   ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 04/11] asus-acpi: " Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 05/11] eeepc-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 06/11] fujitsu-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 23:11   ` Jonathan Woithe
2008-07-18  0:04   ` Jonathan Woithe
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 07/11] fujitsu-laptop: Fix section mismatch Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 08/11] msi-laptop: fingers off backlight if video.ko is serving this functionality Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 09/11] sony-laptop: " Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 10/11] thinkpad_acpi: " Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 11:20   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-16 11:36     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 12:40   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-16 12:47     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-16 13:38       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-16 15:27         ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-16 15:29           ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-16 15:49             ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-07-17  9:10             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-17 10:46               ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-17 11:18                 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-07-17 11:25                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-16 10:52 ` [PATCH 11/11] compal: " Thomas Renninger
     [not found] ` <20080716105931.GC1701@corsac.net>
2008-07-16 11:16   ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers - version 2 Thomas Renninger
2008-07-19  6:01 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-07-30  6:29 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2008-07-30  9:06   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-31  0:35     ` Jonathan Woithe
2008-07-31  2:28       ` Zhang Rui
2008-07-31  2:51         ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI Jonathan Woithe
2008-07-31  5:22           ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2008-07-31 15:32     ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers - version 2 nokos
2008-07-31 23:00       ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPI Jonathan Woithe
2008-08-01  1:28       ` Check for ACPI backlight support otherwise use vendor ACPIdrivers - version 2 Zhang Rui
2008-08-01  8:25         ` nokos
2008-08-01  9:29         ` nokos

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