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From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	amit.kachhap@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] the generic thermal layer enhancement
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:54:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1338443684.1472.237.camel@rui.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120531035821.GA1587@srcf.ucam.org>

On 四, 2012-05-31 at 04:58 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:54:51AM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> > On 三, 2012-05-30 at 13:50 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > The existing algorithm provides a generic mechanism for 
> > > balancing performance and thermal output, with the only requirement 
> > > being that the platform provide constants that represent the heating and 
> > > cooling properties of the system.
> > > 
> > I'm not sure if this could work on their platforms. So I'm just looking
> > for an easier way to handle this, i.e. make generic thermal layer
> > simple, and provide the flexibility for platform drivers to do their own
> > tricks.
> 
> If it's not possible for a platform to use the existing generic approach 
> then we should certainly provide a way for them to handle that, but 
> first I'd like to see evidence that it's impossible for them to use the 
> existing generic approach. This kind of conversation is better with real 
> world examples :)

Agreed.

Amit, do you have any update on this? :)

> 
> > > > G4. Multiple passive trip points
> > > 
> > > It would be good to have an explanation of the use case here. If it's 
> > > acceptable for the device to be at the lower passive trip point, why are 
> > > we slowing it down at all?
> > > 
> > acceptable does not equal comfortable?
> > Say, I'd like to use the computer at 30C skin temperature.
> > I'm okay with the temperature at 50C, but it would be nice if it can be
> > lower, even if the system would be slower, but not too slow (T-state).
> > If the temperature is higher than 60, it is not usable for me, I'll wait
> > for a while, the system can do everything they want do cool the system
> > down (but hibernate/shutdown would be not a good idea at this time
> > because it is hot enough for some hardware damage).
> 
> Ok, that seems reasonable.
> 
Great!

thanks,
rui


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-31  5:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-30  8:49 [RFC] the generic thermal layer enhancement Zhang Rui
2012-05-30  8:51 ` [linux-pm] " Zhang Rui
2012-05-30 10:30   ` Eduardo Valentin
2012-05-30 11:05     ` R, Durgadoss
2012-05-30 11:17       ` Eduardo Valentin
2012-05-31  3:32         ` [linux-pm] " Zhang Rui
2012-05-31 11:06           ` Eduardo Valentin
2012-05-31 11:14             ` R, Durgadoss
2012-05-31  3:27       ` Zhang Rui
2012-05-31  2:20     ` [linux-pm] " Zhang Rui
2012-05-31  5:16     ` Amit Kachhap
2012-05-31  6:13       ` Zhang Rui
2012-05-31 11:13       ` Eduardo Valentin
2012-06-01  9:05         ` [linux-pm] " Jean Pihet
2012-05-30 10:44 ` R, Durgadoss
2012-05-31  3:15   ` Zhang Rui
2012-05-30 12:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-05-31  3:54   ` Zhang Rui
2012-05-31  3:58     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-05-31  5:54       ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2012-05-31  4:59 ` Amit Kachhap
2012-05-31  6:09   ` Zhang Rui
2012-05-31 10:59     ` Eduardo Valentin

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