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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren.hart@intel.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>,
	Al Stone <al.stone@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI / property: Document usage rules for _DSD properties
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:35:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1480523747.21899.57.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1760010.oD1shqWuRz@aspire.rjw.lan>

On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 02:52 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> 
> Following some discussions during the Kernel Summit and LPC, document
> what can be returned from ACPI _DSD as device properties and when it
> is valid to use the special PRP0001 device ID.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> ---
> 
> Here's my follow-up to the discussions we had during the KS and LPC.
> 
> Please let me know if that's sufficient or it needs to be extended
> somehow.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael

That's nice one and explains basically what we discussed at KS/LPC!
Acked-by: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>

> 
> ---
>  Documentation/acpi/DSD-properties-rules.txt |   97
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  Documentation/acpi/enumeration.txt          |    9 ++
>  2 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> 
> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/acpi/enumeration.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/acpi/enumeration.txt
> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/acpi/enumeration.txt
> @@ -415,3 +415,12 @@ the "compatible" property in the _DSD or
>  ancestors provides a _DSD with a valid "compatible" property.  Such
> device
>  objects are then simply regarded as additional "blocks" providing
> hierarchical
>  configuration information to the driver of the composite ancestor
> device.
> +
> +However, PRP0001 can only be returned from either _HID or _CID of a
> device
> +object if all of the properties returned by the _DSD associated with
> it (either
> +the _DSD of the device object itself or the _DSD of its ancestor in
> the
> +"composite device" case described above) can be used in the ACPI
> environment.
> +Otherwise, the _DSD itself is regarded as invalid and therefore the
> "compatible"
> +property returned by it is meaningless.
> +
> +Refer to DSD-properties-rules.txt for more information.
> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/acpi/DSD-properties-rules.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- /dev/null
> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/acpi/DSD-properties-rules.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
> +_DSD Device Properties Usage Rules
> +----------------------------------
> +
> +Properties, Property Sets and Property Subsets
> +----------------------------------------------
> +
> +The _DSD (Device Specific Data) configuration object, introduced in
> ACPI 5.1,
> +allows any type of device configuration data to be provided via the
> ACPI
> +namespace.  In principle, the format of the data may be arbitrary,
> but it has to
> +be identified by a UUID which must be recognized by the driver
> processing the
> +_DSD output.  However, there are generic UUIDs defined for _DSD
> recognized by
> +the ACPI subsystem in the Linux kernel which automatically processes
> the data
> +packages associated with them and makes those data available to
> device drivers
> +as "device properties".
> +
> +A device property is a data item consisting of a string key and a
> value (of a
> +specific type) associated with it.
> +
> +In the ACPI _DSD context it is an element of the sub-package
> following the
> +generic Device Properties UUID in the _DSD return package as
> specified in the
> +Device Properties UUID definition document [1].
> +
> +It also may be regarded as the definition of a key and the associated
> data type
> +that can be returned by _DSD in the Device Properties UUID sub-
> package for a
> +given device.
> +
> +A property set is a collection of properties applicable to a hardware
> entity
> +like a device.  In the ACPI _DSD context it is the set of all
> properties that
> +can be returned in the Device Properties UUID sub-package for the
> device in
> +question.
> +
> +Property subsets are nested collections of properties.  Each of them
> is
> +associated with an additional key (name) allowing the subset to be
> referred
> +to as a whole (and to be treated as a separate entity).  The
> canonical
> +representation of property subsets is via the mechanism specified in
> the
> +Hierarchical Properties Extension UUID definition document [2].
> +
> +Property sets may be hierarchical.  That is, a property set may
> contain
> +multiple property subsets that each may contain property subsets of
> its
> +own and so on.
> +
> +General Validity Rule for Property Sets
> +---------------------------------------
> +
> +Valid property sets must follow the guidance given by the Device
> Properties UUID
> +definition document [1].
> +
> +_DSD properties are intended to be used in addition to, and not
> instead of, the
> +existing mechanisms defined by the ACPI specification.  Therefore, as
> a rule,
> +they should only be used if the ACPI specification does not make
> direct
> +provisions for handling the underlying use case.  It generally is
> invalid to
> +return property sets which do not follow that rule from _DSD in data
> packages
> +associated with the Device Properties UUID.
> +
> +Additional Considerations
> +-------------------------
> +
> +There are cases in which, even if the general rule given above is
> followed in
> +principle, the property set may still not be regarded as a valid one.
> +
> +For example, that applies to device properties which may cause kernel
> code
> +(either a device driver or a library/subsystem) to access hardware in
> a way
> +possibly leading to a conflict with AML methods in the ACPI
> namespace.  In
> +particular, that may happen if the kernel code uses device properties
> to
> +manipulate hardware normally controlled by ACPI methods related to
> power
> +management, like _PSx and _DSW (for device objects) or _ON and _OFF
> (for power
> +resource objects), or by ACPI device disabling/enabling methods, like
> _DIS and
> +_SRS.
> +
> +In all cases in which kernel code may do something that will confuse
> AML as a
> +result of using device properties, the device properties in question
> are not
> +suitable for the ACPI environment and consequently they cannot belong
> to a valid
> +property set.
> +
> +Property Sets and Device Tree Bindings
> +--------------------------------------
> +
> +It often is useful to make _DSD return property sets that follow
> Device Tree
> +bindings.
> +
> +In those cases, however, the above validity considerations must be
> taken into
> +account in the first place and returning invalid property sets from
> _DSD must be
> +avoided.  For this reason, it may not be possible to make _DSD return
> a property
> +set following the given DT binding literally and completely.  Still,
> for the
> +sake of code re-use, it may make sense to provide as much of the
> configuration
> +data as possible in the form of device properties and complement that
> with an
> +ACPI-specific mechanism suitable for the use case at hand.
> +
> +In any case, property sets following DT bindings literally should not
> be
> +expected to automatically work in the ACPI environment regardless of
> their
> +contents.
> +
> +References
> +----------
> +
> +[1] http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-pro
> perties-UUID.pdf
> +[2] http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-hierarchic
> al-data-extension-UUID-v1.1.pdf
> 

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Intel Finland Oy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-30 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30  1:52 [PATCH] ACPI / property: Document usage rules for _DSD properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-30 14:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2016-11-30 16:35 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2016-12-02  9:30 ` Graeme Gregory
2016-12-05 14:00 ` Mark Brown

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