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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
	grant.likely@secretlab.ca, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	khali@linux-fr.org, ben-linux@fluff.org, w.sang@pengutronix.de,
	mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] spi / ACPI: add ACPI enumeration support
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:28:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1996776.cC14CHafyR@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo44pWUJmRAP6eR9T+2WvO5hJPFOC=Nn-WPXDtCY0v0EDw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 01:35:56 PM Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > On Monday, November 05, 2012 09:54:42 AM Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, November 03, 2012 09:59:28 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> >> On Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:13:10 PM Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 01:42:02PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >> >> > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Mika Westerberg
> >> >> > > <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > > ACPI 5 introduced SPISerialBus resource that allows us to enumerate and
> >> >> > > > configure the SPI slave devices behind the SPI controller. This patch adds
> >> >> > > > support for this to the SPI core.
> >> > [...]
> >> >> > And if the ACPI core parses the _CRS, how does it pass all the resources to
> >> >> > the drivers?
> >> >>
> >> >> Pretty much the same way the $subject patch does.
> >> >>
> >> >> Instead of parsing the entire subtree below an SPI controller and trying
> >> >> acpi_spi_add_device() for each device node in there, it could call
> >> >> acpi_spi_add_device() whenever it finds a device of type
> >> >> ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_SERIAL_BUS/ACPI_RESOURCE_SERIAL_TYPE_SPI.
> >> >> The only problem is how to pass "master" to it.
> >> >>
> >> >> So Bjorn, do you have any idea how we could pass the "master" pointer from the
> >> >> ACPI core to acpi_spi_add_device() in a sensible way?
> >> >>
> >> >> An alternative might be to store the information obtained from _CRS in
> >> >> struct acpi_device objects created by the ACPI core while parsing the
> >> >> namespace.  We do that already for things like _PRW, so we might as well do it
> >> >> for _CRS.  Then, the SPI core could just walk the subtree of the device hierarchy
> >> >> below the SPI controller's acpi_device to extract that information.
> >> >> Maybe that's the way to go?
> >> >
> >> > The general idea is to move the _CRS parsing routine from acpi_platform.c
> >> > to scan.c and make it attach resource objects to struct acpi_device.
> >> >
> >> > I'm thinking about adding a list head to struct acpi_device pointing to a
> >> > list of entries like:
> >> >
> >> > struct resource_list_entry {
> >> >         struct list_head node;
> >> >         struct resource *resources;
> >> >         unsigned int count;
> >> > };
> >> >
> >> > where "resources" is an array of resources (e.g. interrupts) in the given
> >> > entry and count is the size of that array.
> >> >
> >> > That list would contain common resources like ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_FIXED_MEMORY32,
> >> > ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_IRQ, ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_ADDRESS32, ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_EXTENDED_IRQ.
> >>
> >> This is exactly what PNPACPI already does.  For every Device node in
> >> the namespace, pnpacpi/rsparser.c parses _CRS and builds a list of
> >> struct resources that correspond to it.  If you put this functionality
> >> in acpi/scan.c, should we get rid of PNPACPI?
> >
> > Quite likely.  At least this part of it, if you want the core to parse
> > resources.
> >
> > That said, I actually tried to abstract out resource parsing in a more generic
> > fashion on the basis of our new platform device support code, but quite frankly
> > I wasn't able to.
> >
> > The problem is that struct resource is too simple to be useful for representing
> > all of the information that can be encoded in ACPI resources.  As a result, some
> > information have to be stored directly in things like struct pnp_dev, struct
> > platform_device etc. and if we want to represent it generically, the only way
> > to do that seems to be using the ACPICA resource types as defined in acrestyp.h.
> 
> Really?  I didn't have that impression.  It might be that the new GPIO
> and SERIAL_BUS stuff makes it too complicated for a struct resource,
> but prior to that, I don't think it was.  It's true that there are
> many different formats (IO, FIXED_IO, MEMORY24, MEMORY32, etc.), but
> only the core needs to be aware of the encoding of all those formats.
> As far as a *driver* is concerned, there are only IRQ, DMA, IO, and
> MEM resources, and those fit easily in a struct resource.

However, for example expanding ACPI_RESOURCE_TYPE_EXTENDED_IRQ into an
array of struct resource objects before anyone actually needs it seems a
bit wasteful to me.  Let alone registering GSI for the interrupts while
we're parsing those resources.

> I want to expand on what I said before about _CRS being the domain of
> the core, not drivers.

Well, I see a difference between _evaluating_ _CRS and _parsing_ its
output.  In particular, I don't see a reason to do those two things in
one operation.  In fact, I see reasons to do otherwise. :-)

> The core must evaluate _CRS to know where
> devices are and avoid conflicts when assigning resources.  The core
> must evaluate _PRS and _SRS when making resource assignments.  It
> doesn't make sense for drivers to be using _PRS and _SRS; they don't
> have a global view of resources, and any assignment they make would
> likely cause conflicts with other devices.  I think it makes sense to
> consolidate all _CRS, _PRS, and _SRS management in the core rather
> than splitting it up.  This is exactly analogous to PCI BAR
> management, and we don't intend drivers to read and write BARs
> directly.

OK, but then we need to pass the information obtained from _CRS
(presumably after some adjustments through _SRS) to drivers, or rather to
things like the SPI core, I2C core etc. so that they can create device
objects for drivers to bind to and quite frankly I don't see why not to use
ACPI resources for that.

Thanks,
Rafael


-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-03  7:46 [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] gpio / ACPI: add ACPI support Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 11:53   ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 12:14     ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-05 12:46       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:11         ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:19           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:28             ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 14:40                 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-06  9:39                   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-06 10:15                     ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-07  8:54                       ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 15:55   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-08 19:38     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-09 14:11       ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-09 14:18         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 15:05           ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-09 15:46             ` Grant Likely
2012-11-11  9:50               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] spi / ACPI: add ACPI enumeration support Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 19:42   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-03 20:13     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 20:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:56           ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 10:56             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 12:02               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 12:23                 ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 12:59                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:15                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 13:20                       ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:43                         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 14:03                         ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 14:19                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 14:53                             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 15:19                               ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 17:12                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 17:43                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-05 18:08                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 17:49                                   ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 20:42                           ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-06  8:11                 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 16:54           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 13:43             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-06 20:35               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 22:28                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-11-06 22:36                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07  9:58                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-07 11:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 13:05                         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08  0:46                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 20:20                             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 20:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 18:05                       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-08 21:06                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 21:34                           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-05 10:54       ` Mark Brown
2012-11-03 20:39     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 16:54       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 13:16         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-06 20:53           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 22:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07  9:56               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 19:32                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-08 20:04                   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-09 15:11                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-09 15:45                       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 16:35                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-09 16:43                           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 16:48                             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-09 16:53                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-10 11:10                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-10 11:16                                 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-10 17:14                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-10 19:40                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:54   ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 11:03     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 11:13       ` Mark Brown
2012-11-08 18:48   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09  3:50     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] i2c " Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 21:52   ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-04  7:23     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-04  8:50       ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-04 10:50         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 18:58   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09  3:51     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-04 18:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C Linus Walleij
2012-11-05  9:23   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 11:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] Centralized parsing of ACPI device resources (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPI: Move device resources interpretation code from PNP to ACPI core Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 13:27     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 20:25       ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:01   ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPI / platform: Use common ACPI device resource parsing routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:02   ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Evaluate _CRS while creating device node objects Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 14:46     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 21:03       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13  7:12         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 12:06           ` [Replacement][PATCH 3/3] Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 14:16             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 15:15               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 15:18                 ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 15:28                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 15:37                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 16:34           ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Evaluate _CRS while creating device node objects Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 20:44             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 22:06               ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 22:56                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  2:23                   ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-14  9:18                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:32                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 14:20                         ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 20:51   ` [PATCH 0/3 rev 2] Centralized parsing of ACPI device resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:55     ` [PATCH 1/3 rev 2] ACPI: Move device resources interpretation code from PNP to ACPI core Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:55     ` [PATCH 2/3 rev 2] ACPI / platform: Use common ACPI device resource parsing routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:56     ` [PATCH 3/3 rev 2] ACPI: Centralized processing of ACPI device resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:52     ` [PATCH 0/3 rev 2] Centralized parsing " Mika Westerberg
2012-11-14 10:08       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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