RE: Need for an ACPI webpage

RE: Need for an ACPI webpage

[Grover, Andrew]

> From: P. Christeas [mailto:p_christ-U04EIuiosng@public.gmane.org] 
> One more way that the table won't get outdated is if we put it on an 
> 'official' server (like yours). This way readers will harass 
> us about wrong 
> entries.

OK, so send me something. Or give me your sf.net id and I will give you web
author access.

I still think generating the html from the .c is the way to go, but whatever
you want to do.

Regards -- Andy


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Re: Need for an ACPI webpage

[P. Christeas]

Στις Παρ 18 Οκτ 2002 7:55 μμ, ο/η Grover, Andrew έγραψε:
> > From: P. Christeas [mailto:p_christ-U04EIuiosng@public.gmane.org]
> > One more way that the table won't get outdated is if we put it on an
> > 'official' server (like yours). This way readers will harass
> > us about wrong
> > entries.
>
> OK, so send me something. Or give me your sf.net id and I will give you web
> author access.
>
> I still think generating the html from the .c is the way to go, but
> whatever you want to do.
I would like that too and don't mind if somebody does that. It's just that 
sometimes testing has more to say than the code.

>
> Regards -- Andy
>



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Re: Need for an ACPI webpage

[Andrew Kohlsmith]

> I would like that too and don't mind if somebody does that. It's just that
> sometimes testing has more to say than the code.

Well there would be a third file that could be read in and tacked on which is 
"comments" or somesuch.

Regards,
Andrew


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RE: Need for an ACPI webpage

[Grover, Andrew]

> From: P. Christeas [mailto:p_christ-U04EIuiosng@public.gmane.org] 
> Until now I have hust been lurking in this list. 
> I realized now that I may need to patch my DSDT and found out that:
> - I cannot find any web-page with a list of 
> known/buggy/patched systems, where 
> we could share knowledge on a *per system* basis. I can only 
> lurk the list 
> for previous discussions etc.
> Never mind about my own system, this should apply to all..
> 
> I propose that we construct a table like: (example)
> System		kernel/ACPI		State		More
> ------------------------------------------------
> HP Xe3GC	all			DSDT		Patch 
> with <a href...> the patch </a>
> 		2.4.20/20020918		tested-OK	No suspend
> 		2.5.29-/-		buggy		No 
> sleep resume, hang on kbd
> 		2.5.33+/20021002	unknown		Sleep 
> fixed, rest?
> Asus M2000E	2.5.40			bug		hangs.. 
> (some_name-cx69T0KZIJYAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org)
> Foobar(TM)	all			horrible		
> Don't use!
> 
> ---------------------
> 
> ... and put it in an official page, where all can see it.
> 
> I believe that DSDT's need only be fixed once, so that would 
> be a useful place 
> to put them in. 
> 
> We could all contribute there, by treating the table as a 
> project. Each time 
> we mention sth useful in the list, we could make sure it is 
> transferred 
> there.

Look at blacklist.c.

Should we add these to that table?

The code is the only thing that is guaranteed to be up to date. I think it
would be nice to have a more readable version of that list online, but it
will quickly become outdated unless someone actively maintains it (you?) or
it is auto-generated from the source.

Regards -- Andy


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Re: Need for an ACPI webpage

[Andrew Kohlsmith]

> The code is the only thing that is guaranteed to be up to date. I think it
> would be nice to have a more readable version of that list online, but it
> will quickly become outdated unless someone actively maintains it (you?) or
> it is auto-generated from the source.

auto-generation would be the only sane method.  Like a once-a-week update 
would be plenty fast.  I bet some perl code could do this in a snap.  I'd be 
willing to code it up; is it possible to run perl cgi's on sf's servers?

Regards,
Andrew


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Re: Need for an ACPI webpage

[P. Christeas]

> Look at blacklist.c.
>
> Should we add these to that table?
 Perhaps

>
> The code is the only thing that is guaranteed to be up to date. I think it
> would be nice to have a more readable version of that list online, but it
> will quickly become outdated unless someone actively maintains it (you?) or
> it is auto-generated from the source.
>
> Regards -- Andy

The code itself may not be the best place for a newbie to look at. What about 
things that are already covered by an old ver or things that have been proven 
to fail? A second reason is that we could not practically have many patch 
DSDT's in our kernel (or can we?).
I wouldn't mind being one of the mainteners of the list, but I don't have much 
webspace for that. The best way could be to use this list (acpi-devel) to 
post requests like 'could you add the line "x-brand 2.5.x blah blah" to the 
table?' so that the maintener won't do much himself. Testing can not be done 
by one person, anyway.
One more way that the table won't get outdated is if we put it on an 
'official' server (like yours). This way readers will harass us about wrong 
entries.



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Need for an ACPI webpage

[P. Christeas]

Until now I have hust been lurking in this list. 
I realized now that I may need to patch my DSDT and found out that:
- I cannot find any web-page with a list of known/buggy/patched systems, where 
we could share knowledge on a *per system* basis. I can only lurk the list 
for previous discussions etc.
Never mind about my own system, this should apply to all..

I propose that we construct a table like: (example)
System		kernel/ACPI		State		More
------------------------------------------------
HP Xe3GC	all			DSDT		Patch with <a href...> the patch </a>
		2.4.20/20020918		tested-OK	No suspend
		2.5.29-/-		buggy		No sleep resume, hang on kbd
		2.5.33+/20021002	unknown		Sleep fixed, rest?
Asus M2000E	2.5.40			bug		hangs.. (some_name-cx69T0KZIJYAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org)
Foobar(TM)	all			horrible		Don't use!

---------------------

... and put it in an official page, where all can see it.

I believe that DSDT's need only be fixed once, so that would be a useful place 
to put them in. 

We could all contribute there, by treating the table as a project. Each time 
we mention sth useful in the list, we could make sure it is transferred 
there.

Regards
P. Christeas



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