* ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
@ 2002-11-01 22:31 Grover, Andrew
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From: Grover, Andrew @ 2002-11-01 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A
Hi all,
20021101 is now released at http://sf.net/projects/acpi . It includes a fix
for the proc/thermal missing bug, as well as a few others. Non-Linux
releases will be posted most likely by tonight.
Regards -- Andy
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01 November 2002. Summary of changes for version 20021101.
1) Linux
Fixed a problem introduced in the previous release where the
Processor and Thermal objects were not recognized and
installed in /proc. This was related to the scope type change
described below.
2) ACPI CA Core Subsystem:
Fixed a problem where platforms that have a GPE1 block but no
GPE0 block were not handled correctly. This resulted in a
"GPE overlap" error message. GPE0 is no longer required.
Removed code added in the previous release that inserted nodes
into the namespace in alphabetical order. This caused some
side-effects on various machines. The root cause of the
problem is still under investigation since in theory, the
internal ordering of the namespace nodes should not matter.
Enhanced error reporting for the case where a named object is
not found during control method execution. The full ACPI
namepath (name reference) of the object that was not found is
displayed in this case.
Note: as a result of the overhaul of the namespace object
types in the previous release, the namespace nodes for the
predefined scopes (_TZ, _PR, etc.) are now of the type
ACPI_TYPE_LOCAL_SCOPE instead of ACPI_TYPE_ANY. This
simplifies the namespace management code but may affect code
that walks the namespace tree looking for specific object
types.
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Andrew Grover
Intel Labs / Mobile Architecture
andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
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* Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A49E-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-02 18:55 ` Sebastian Zimmermann 2002-11-03 10:10 ` Hanno Böck 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Zimmermann @ 2002-11-02 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Grover, Andrew; +Cc: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A Am Fre, 2002-11-01 um 23.31 schrieb Grover, Andrew: > Hi all, > > 20021101 is now released at http://sf.net/projects/acpi . It includes a fix > for the proc/thermal missing bug, as well as a few others. Non-Linux > releases will be posted most likely by tonight. Thanks, this patch fixed the problem with proc/thermal as you say (Toshiba Tecra 9000). Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A49E-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 2002-11-02 18:55 ` Sebastian Zimmermann @ 2002-11-03 10:10 ` Hanno Böck 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Hanno Böck @ 2002-11-03 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Grover, Andrew; +Cc: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A The Problem I reported in the mail below is still in the current version. As I already said, it worked with previous versions. Can anyone have a look at it? How can I help you solve the problem. cu, Hanno --------------------------- Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:15:23 +0100 From: Hanno Böck <hanno-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org> To: acpi-devel <acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> Subject: [ACPI] Computer with SIS-Chipset doesn't work - worked before I have a computer with a SIS-Chipset that worked with previous versions of the ACPI-Patch, but doesn't work with the latest one. (It is the second system i found recently that doesn't work and worked with older versions). dmesg and lspci output are at www.int21.de/dmesg.txt www.int21.de/lspci.txt The important part is probably: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20021022 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb01, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 tbxfroot-0305 [04] Acpi_find_root_pointer: RSDP structure not found ACPI: System description tables not found tbxface-0066: *** Error: Acpi_load_tables: Could not get RSDP, AE_NOT_FOUND tbxface-0116: *** Error: Acpi_load_tables: Could not load tables: AE_NOT_FOUND ACPI: Unable to load the System Description Tables PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Using IRQ router SIS [1039/0008] at 00:01.0 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <m2y98ct3fm.fsf-dTJq59+VGzkkCw8IV3R6h0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-02 21:48 ` Hanno Böck [not found] ` <20021102224828.31af38a2.hanno-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org> 2002-11-03 2:17 ` John Summerfield 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Hanno Böck @ 2002-11-02 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Rychter Cc: andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A > Doesn't boot on my machine (Sharp Mebius PC-MT1-H5). The kernel starts > booting, then thousands of ACPI debug messages scroll by. All I can say > about them is that they are related to mutexes, they scroll way too fast > for me to read them and I don't know of any way to stop them scrolling. Had a similar problem. WHen I disabled acpi debug messages, i could boot without problems. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <20021102224828.31af38a2.hanno-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-03 0:29 ` Ernst Herzberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Ernst Herzberg @ 2002-11-03 0:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A; +Cc: andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w On Samstag, 2. November 2002 22:48, Hanno Böck wrote: > > Doesn't boot on my machine (Sharp Mebius PC-MT1-H5). The kernel starts > > booting, then thousands of ACPI debug messages scroll by. All I can say > > about them is that they are related to mutexes, they scroll way too fast > > for me to read them and I don't know of any way to stop them scrolling. > > Had a similar problem. WHen I disabled acpi debug messages, i could boot > without problems. > Similar problem on a Germicom M6-T. With debug messages enabled the kernel will not boot, without _any_ message. With debugging disabled everything works fine. <Earny> ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <m2y98ct3fm.fsf-dTJq59+VGzkkCw8IV3R6h0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> 2002-11-02 21:48 ` Hanno Böck @ 2002-11-03 2:17 ` John Summerfield [not found] ` <200211031015.52270.acpi-bdq14YP6qtSeVB85EesmETSf8X3wrgjD@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: John Summerfield @ 2002-11-03 2:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A This is the hardest discussion list on which to have a discussion I know! On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:08, Jan Rychter wrote: > Doesn't boot on my machine (Sharp Mebius PC-MT1-H5). The kernel starts > booting, then thousands of ACPI debug messages scroll by. All I can say > about them is that they are related to mutexes, they scroll way too fast > for me to read them and I don't know of any way to stop them scrolling. > > > This goes on for about 2 minutes and finishes with a glorious oops. Can you run with a serial console talking to (maybe) minicom? That would allow you to get a complete completley accurate log. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <200211031015.52270.acpi-bdq14YP6qtSeVB85EesmETSf8X3wrgjD@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-03 7:09 ` Ernst Herzberg [not found] ` <200211030809.02748.earny-euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Ernst Herzberg @ 2002-11-03 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Summerfield, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A Cc: andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w On Sonntag, 3. November 2002 03:17, John Summerfield wrote: > This is the hardest discussion list on which to have a discussion I know! > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:08, Jan Rychter wrote: > > Doesn't boot on my machine (Sharp Mebius PC-MT1-H5). The kernel starts > > booting, then thousands of ACPI debug messages scroll by. All I can say > > about them is that they are related to mutexes, they scroll way too fast > > for me to read them and I don't know of any way to stop them scrolling. > > > > > > This goes on for about 2 minutes and finishes with a glorious oops. > > Can you run with a serial console talking to (maybe) minicom? > > That would allow you to get a complete completley accurate log. > Yupp;-) The following output is only the first part, with 38400 bps on the serial console the kernel is still booting after 15min. No oops yet, the log reaches 4MB... after about 20 minutes ... (rebooting...) <Earny> ----------------------------- kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 hdc=ide-scsi vga=791 console=tty0 cons ole=ttyS0,38400n8 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x10d5bd] initrd (hd0,2)/initrd [Linux-initrd @ 0x1fea4000, 0x3bf71 bytes] Linux version 2.4.20-rc1 (root@lidl) (gcc version 3.2) #7 Sun Nov 3 07:07:54 CET 2002 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000c0000 - 00000000000d0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fef0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001fef0000 - 000000001feff000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000001feff000 - 000000001ff00000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000001ff00000 - 0000000020000000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 512MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 131072 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 126976 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f6d40 ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTD RSDT 01540.00000) @ 0x1fefb426 ACPI: FADT (v001 SMDVIA VT5228C 01540.00000) @ 0x1fefef8c ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA PTL_ACPI 01540.00000) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: BIOS passes blacklist ACPI: MADT not present Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 hdc=ide-scsi vga=791 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400n8 ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 Detected 1199.819 MHz processor. Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 2392.06 BogoMIPS Memory: 515312k/524288k available (1631k kernel code, 8524k reserved, 581k data, 148k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU 1200MHz stepping 01 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000 ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... ..... CPU clock speed is 1199.8165 MHz. ..... host bus clock speed is 133.3128 MHz. cpu: 0, clocks: 1333128, slice: 666564 CPU0<T0:1333120,T1:666544,D:12,S:666564,C:1333128> mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch-r1x6VkxMR+00zabcByZE4g@public.gmane.org) mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel ACPI: Subsystem revision 20021101 **** Context Switch from TID FFFFFFFF to TID 1 **** acpi_bus-1857 [0001] [02] acpi_bus_init : ----Entry utxface-0057 [0001] [03] Acpi_initialize_subsys: ----Entry utglobal-0653 [0001] [04] Ut_init_globals : ----Entry utglobal-0765 [0001] [04] Ut_init_globals : ----Exit- PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd82e, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 utmisc-0502 [0001] [04] Ut_mutex_initialize : ----Entry utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000000 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea02e0|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000001 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0300|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000002 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0320|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000003 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0340|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000004 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0360|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000005 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0380|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000006 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea03a0|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000007 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea03c0|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000008 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea03e0|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 00000009 osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0400|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 0000000A osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0420|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 0000000B osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0440|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0571 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Entry 0000000C osl-0641 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0652 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : Creating semaphore[dfea0460|1]. osl-0654 [0001] [06] os_create_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0586 [0001] [05] Ut_create_mutex : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0515 [0001] [04] Ut_mutex_initialize : ----Exit- AE_OK nsaccess-0060 [0001] [04] Ns_root_initialize : ----Entry utmisc-0685 [0001] [04] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 attempting to acquire Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Namespace] osl-0703 [0001] [05] os_wait_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0711 [0001] [05] os_wait_semaphore : Waiting for semaphore[dfea03a0|1|-1] osl-0767 [0001] [05] os_wait_semaphore : Acquired semaphore[dfea03a0|1|-1] osl-0770 [0001] [05] os_wait_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0691 [0001] [04] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 acquired Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Namespace] nsaccess-0086 [0001] [04] Ns_root_initialize : Entering predefined entries into namespace nsaccess-0259 [0001] [05] Ns_lookup : ----Entry nsaccess-0281 [0001] [05] Ns_lookup : Null scope prefix, using root node (c036477c) nsaccess-0353 [0001] [05] Ns_lookup : Searching relative to prefix scope [\___] (c036477c) nsaccess-0457 [0001] [05] Ns_lookup : Simple Pathname (1 segment, Flags=0) nsdump-0063 [0001] [05] Ns_print_pathname : [_GPE] nssearch-0263 [0001] [06] Ns_search_and_enter : ----Entry nssearch-0072 [0001] [07] Ns_search_node : ----Entry nsnames-0129 [0001] [08] Ns_get_external_pathna: ----Entry c036477c utalloc-0395 [0001] [09] Ut_callocate : ----Entry 00000031 utalloc-0418 [0001] [09] Ut_callocate : ----Exit- c158e220 utalloc-0663 [0001] [09] Ut_track_allocation : ----Entry c158e220 utmisc-0685 [0001] [09] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 attempting to acquire Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0703 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0711 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : Waiting for semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0767 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : Acquired semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0770 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0691 [0001] [09] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 acquired Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utmisc-0734 [0001] [09] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 releasing Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0784 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0792 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : Signaling semaphore[dfea0420|1] osl-0796 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0787 [0001] [09] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 released Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utalloc-0714 [0001] [09] Ut_track_allocation : ----Exit- AE_OK nsnames-0147 [0001] [08] Ns_get_external_pathna: ----Exit- c158e248 nssearch-0082 [0001] [07] Ns_search_node : Searching \ [c036477c] For _GPE (Scope) utalloc-0557 [0001] [08] Ut_free : ----Entry c158e248 utalloc-0745 [0001] [09] Ut_remove_allocation : ----Entry utmisc-0685 [0001] [09] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 attempting to acquire Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0703 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0711 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : Waiting for semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0767 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : Acquired semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0770 [0001] [10] os_wait_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0691 [0001] [09] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 acquired Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utalloc-0784 [0001] [09] Ut_remove_allocation : Freeing size 1 utmisc-0734 [0001] [09] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 releasing Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0784 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0792 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : Signaling semaphore[dfea0420|1] osl-0796 [0001] [10] os_signal_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0787 [0001] [09] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 released Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utalloc-0787 [0001] [09] Ut_remove_allocation : ----Exit- AE_OK utalloc-0582 [0001] [08] Ut_free : c158e248 freed utalloc-0584 [0001] [08] Ut_free : ----Exit- nssearch-0127 [0001] [07] Ns_search_node : Name _GPE Type [Scope] not found at 00000000 nssearch-0129 [0001] [07] Ns_search_node : ----Exit- ****Exception****: AE_NOT_FOUND nsalloc-0054 [0001] [07] Ns_create_node : ----Entry utalloc-0395 [0001] [08] Ut_callocate : ----Entry 00000048 utalloc-0418 [0001] [08] Ut_callocate : ----Exit- c159ae20 utalloc-0663 [0001] [08] Ut_track_allocation : ----Entry c159ae20 utmisc-0685 [0001] [08] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 attempting to acquire Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0703 [0001] [09] os_wait_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0711 [0001] [09] os_wait_semaphore : Waiting for semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0767 [0001] [09] os_wait_semaphore : Acquired semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0770 [0001] [09] os_wait_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0691 [0001] [08] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 acquired Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utmisc-0734 [0001] [08] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 releasing Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0784 [0001] [09] os_signal_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0792 [0001] [09] os_signal_semaphore : Signaling semaphore[dfea0420|1] osl-0796 [0001] [09] os_signal_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0787 [0001] [08] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 released Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utalloc-0714 [0001] [08] Ut_track_allocation : ----Exit- AE_OK nsalloc-0068 [0001] [07] Ns_create_node : ----Exit- c159ae48 nsalloc-0215 [0001] [07] Ns_install_node : ----Entry [......] utmisc-0685 [0001] [06] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 attempting to acquire Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0703 [0001] [07] os_wait_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0711 [0001] [07] os_wait_semaphore : Waiting for semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0767 [0001] [07] os_wait_semaphore : Acquired semaphore[dfea0420|1|-1] osl-0770 [0001] [07] os_wait_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0691 [0001] [06] Ut_acquire_mutex : Thread 1 acquired Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utmisc-0734 [0001] [06] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 releasing Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] osl-0784 [0001] [07] os_signal_semaphore : ----Entry osl-0792 [0001] [07] os_signal_semaphore : Signaling semaphore[dfea0420|1] osl-0796 [0001] [07] os_signal_semaphore : ----Exit- AE_OK utmisc-0787 [0001] [06] Ut_release_mutex : Thread 1 released Mutex [ACPI_MTX_Memory] utalloc-0714 [0001] [06] Ut_track_allocation : ----Exit- AE_OK tbgetall-0287 [0001] [04] Tb_get_required_tables: Hex dump of entire DSDT, size 15166 (0x3B3E), Integer width = 32 Offset Value 00000 44 53 44 54 3E 3B 00 00 01 0D 56 49 41 20 20 00 DSDT>;....VIA . 00010 50 54 4C 5F 41 43 50 49 00 00 04 06 4D 53 46 54 PTL_ACPI....MSFT 00020 0D 00 00 01 10 13 5C 5F 50 52 5F 5B 83 0B 43 50 ......\_PR_[..CP 00030 55 30 01 10 40 00 00 06 08 5C 5F 53 30 5F 12 06 U0..-9D9NNryygCw@public.gmane.org\_S0_.. 00040 02 0A 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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <200211030809.02748.earny-euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-03 17:17 ` Ernst Herzberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Ernst Herzberg @ 2002-11-03 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Summerfield, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A Cc: andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w With this patch the kernel will boot with debug messages enabled. <Earny> --- bus.c.orig 2002-11-03 18:10:24.000000000 +0100 +++ bus.c 2002-11-03 17:35:13.000000000 +0100 @@ -2035,7 +2035,7 @@ ACPI_CA_VERSION); /* Initial core debug level excludes drivers, so include them now */ - acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_HIGH); + acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_LOW); if (acpi_disabled) { printk(KERN_INFO PREFIX "Disabled via command line (acpi=off)\n"); ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
@ 2002-11-04 17:53 Grover, Andrew
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From: Grover, Andrew @ 2002-11-04 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'earny=euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org', John Summerfield,
acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A
> From: Ernst Herzberg [mailto:earny-euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org]
> With this patch the kernel will boot with debug messages enabled.
>
> <Earny>
> - acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_HIGH);
> + acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_LOW);
Oops. That shouldn't have slipped in. Thanks, Ernst. I will upload an
updated 2.4 patch to sourceforge right away.
Regards -- Andy
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* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A4A5-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-05 23:57 ` Sérgio Monteiro Basto 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Sérgio Monteiro Basto @ 2002-11-05 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Grover Cc: 'earny=euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org', John Summerfield, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 17:53, Grover, Andrew wrote: > > From: Ernst Herzberg [mailto:earny-euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org] > > With this patch the kernel will boot with debug messages enabled. > > > > <Earny> > > - acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_HIGH); > > + acpi_set_debug(ACPI_DEBUG_LOW); > > Oops. That shouldn't have slipped in. Thanks, Ernst. I will upload an > updated 2.4 patch to sourceforge right away. > > Regards -- Andy Hi everyone Andy, will this patch resolve the problem reported, in boot with debug messages enabled ? you will replace patch or you will add this small patch in one extra file ? I vote in second choice, because otherwise no one know if have the correct version or not, and every email reporting problems on boot , we will have to ask if have this patch applied thanks Sérgio Basto ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
@ 2002-11-04 21:17 Moore, Robert
[not found] ` <m21y6286dh.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Moore, Robert @ 2002-11-04 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jan Rychter', Grover, Andrew; +Cc: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A
Jan,
We have discovered a possible situation where an Acquire() with an infinite
wait (0xFFFF) could in fact timeout without obtaining the mutex. This may
be the root of the problem you are seeing.
Andy is preparing a patch.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Rychter [mailto:jan-JAsPCFd0eodBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 3:31 AM
To: andrew.grover-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Cc: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A@public.gmane.org
Subject: [ACPI] Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
I wrote:
> I could then gather the information that Bob and Andy requested,
> necessary to fix the issues with thermal management on my machine.
>
> Andy, Bob, here's the name of the mutex that causes problems:
>
> ACPI-0242: *** Error: Thread 61D cannot release Mutex [MEC0] acquired
by thread 6FE
> ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NOT_OWNER
> ACPI-0815: *** Error: AE_AML_NOT_OWNER while evaluating GPE18 method
> ACPI-0242: *** Error: Thread 73F cannot release Mutex [MEC0] acquired
by thread 44B
> ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NOT_OWNER
> ACPI-0815: *** Error: AE_AML_NOT_OWNER while evaluating GPE18 method
> ACPI-0242: *** Error: Thread 743 cannot release Mutex [MEC0] acquired
by thread 44B
> ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NOT_OWNER
> ACPI-0815: *** Error: AE_AML_NOT_OWNER while evaluating GPE18 method
> ACPI-0242: *** Error: Thread 744 cannot release Mutex [MEC0] acquired
by thread 44B
> ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NOT_OWNER
> ACPI-0815: *** Error: AE_AML_NOT_OWNER while evaluating GPE18 method
[...]
To follow up, I get the following at bootup if the fan runs when the box
is booted:
[...]
ACPI-0226: *** Error: Cannot release Mutex [MEC0], not acquired
ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_MUTEX_NOT_ACQUIRED
ACPI-1154: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_MUTEX_NOT_ACQUIRED
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
ACPI: Fan [FAN1] (off)
ACPI: Fan [FAN2] (off)
ACPI: Fan [FAN3] (off)
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2 C3, 8 throttling states)
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (55 C)
[...]
Maybe this will help.
--J.
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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <m21y6286dh.fsf-dTJq59+VGzkkCw8IV3R6h0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-08 9:59 ` Pavel Machek 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Pavel Machek @ 2002-11-08 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Rychter Cc: Moore, Robert, Grover, Andrew, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A Hi! > >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Moore writes: > Robert> We have discovered a possible situation where an Acquire() with > Robert> an infinite wait (0xFFFF) could in fact timeout without > Robert> obtaining the mutex. This may be the root of the problem you > Robert> are seeing. > > Robert> Andy is preparing a patch. > > Great! > > On a related note, I'm seeing situations where ACPI starts to eat my CPU > time. It has to be related to the mutex issue -- but perhaps should be > fixed independently. > > In most cases I see a kacpidpc thread that eats CPU, but sometimes the > machine slows down _A LOT_ (windows being redrawn slowly, etc), even > when kacpidpc is not visibly running. In my case, it's always related to > fans -- whenever ACPI tries to manage them, I run into problems and > eventually have to reboot. Maybe thermal throttling is going on? Or machine overheats and bios slows down to save it. Pavel -- Worst form of spam? Adding advertisment signatures ala sourceforge.net. What goes next? Inserting advertisment *into* email? ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
@ 2002-11-06 0:16 Grover, Andrew
[not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A4BB-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Grover, Andrew @ 2002-11-06 0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Sérgio Monteiro Basto'
Cc: 'earny=euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org', John Summerfield,
acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A
> From: Sérgio Monteiro Basto [mailto:sergiomb-5ng0By4jB+/QUPosyRRdSA@public.gmane.org]
> Andy, will this patch resolve the problem reported, in boot with debug
> messages enabled ?
>
> you will replace patch or you will add this small patch in one extra
> file ?
> I vote in second choice, because otherwise no one know if have the
> correct version or not, and every email reporting problems on
> boot , we
> will have to ask if have this patch applied
There's some more fixes made lately, so how about another release in a few
days?
BTW if any of you *really* want to follow ACPI development, let me just
mention again that I do maintain a bk tree at linux-acpi.bkbits.net, and
that is updated with fixes as they are applied.
BTW2 the flood of debug messages should *not* crash the system, so if it is,
that's the real bug to fix.
-- Andy
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* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A4BB-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> @ 2002-11-06 1:03 ` Ernst Herzberg 2002-11-06 2:55 ` J 2002-11-09 23:40 ` Sérgio Monteiro Basto 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Ernst Herzberg @ 2002-11-06 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Grover, Andrew, 'Sérgio Monteiro Basto' Cc: John Summerfield, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A On Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 01:16, Grover, Andrew wrote: > BTW2 the flood of debug messages should *not* crash the system, so if it > is, that's the real bug to fix. Hm. If i use a serial console to track the messages, the kernel is 101% busy to send it. This seems to be also true, if the console uses a fb-device (you don't ever see one message). <Earny> ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A4BB-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 2002-11-06 1:03 ` Ernst Herzberg @ 2002-11-06 2:55 ` J 2002-11-09 23:40 ` Sérgio Monteiro Basto 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: J @ 2002-11-06 2:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:16, Grover, Andrew wrote: > TW if any of you *really* want to follow ACPI development, let me just > mention again that I do maintain a bk tree at linux-acpi.bkbits.net, and > that is updated with fixes as they are applied. Wouldn't that be better at the sourceforge website?? A great problem I found there is the lack of information. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101) [not found] ` <EDC461A30AC4D511ADE10002A5072CAD04C7A4BB-OU+JdkIUtvd9zuciVAfUoVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 2002-11-06 1:03 ` Ernst Herzberg 2002-11-06 2:55 ` J @ 2002-11-09 23:40 ` Sérgio Monteiro Basto 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Sérgio Monteiro Basto @ 2002-11-09 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Grover Cc: 'earny-euM3SP4ZHrg@public.gmane.org', John Summerfield, acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 00:16, Grover, Andrew wrote: > > There's some more fixes made lately, so how about another release in a few > days? > good for me, I will wait for next release. Sorry I don't mean bug you. I have many things to learn and don't have time for bk bits sorry. Is not in my plans have my own tree :) if I have an easy way to get patches that are done in your tree, I can test it more quickly. what I thought is: if it is one critical correction, should be mention in sourceforge.net/projects/acpi. by a quick reading of this mailing list, apparently the last patch works better if we disable debug messages, and this little patch correct the (critical?) problem. If it not critical correction you are totally right! I will be here to test, reporting and try to help get ACPI working in all computers. and put this in kernel 2.4 tree. Sérgio Basto ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI source patches updated (20021101)
@ 2002-11-06 3:51 Grover, Andrew
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Grover, Andrew @ 2002-11-06 3:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'J', acpi-devel-pyega4qmqnRoyOMFzWx49A
> From: J [mailto:acpi-bdq14YP6qtSeVB85EesmETSf8X3wrgjD@public.gmane.org]
> > BTW if any of you *really* want to follow ACPI development,
> let me just
> > mention again that I do maintain a bk tree at
> linux-acpi.bkbits.net, and
> > that is updated with fixes as they are applied.
>
>
> Wouldn't that be better at the sourceforge website??
>
> A great problem I found there is the lack of information.
SF doesn't support BK, and CVS is ill-suited for kernel development.
Although more information on the SF site would of course be good.
-- Andy
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