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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ruud koendering
	<ruud.koendering-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RE: Presario DANGER
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:13:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021107171346.GB157@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1036414528.1113.8.camel-MMxVpc8zpTQVh3rx8e9g/fyykp6/JSeS3vcXtXqGYxw@public.gmane.org>

Hi!

> > All the Compaq Presario's are in danger without ACPI. This is confirmed by new 
> > HP. (They d'ont feel to be responcible as always in certain companies. Make 
> > something, sell it and then so0rry c'ant help you)
> 
> That means you cannot even run DOS on that laptop or any software which
> disables interrupts for a long time thus stopping ACPI running. It also
> means it is not a PC compatible system. So its not even safe to boot
> your old PC games on, not even Doom
> 
> I'm under the impression ACPI requires proper thermal protection
> too.

Its there:

When the heat reaches the temperature indicated by _CRT, the OS must
immediately shutdown the system.
The system must disable the power either after the temperature reaches
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
some hardware-determined level above
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
_CRT or after a predetermined time has passed. Before disabling power,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
platform designers should incorporate
some time that allows the OS to run its critical shutdown
operation. There is no requirement for a minimum
shutdown operation window that commences immediately after the
temperature reaches _CRT.  This is
because
*  Heat might rise rapidly in some systems and slower on others,
depending on casing design and
    environmental factors.
*  Shutdown can take several minutes on a server and only a few short
seconds on a hand-held device.
Because of this indistinct discrepancy and the fact that a critical
heat situation is a remarkably rare occurrence,
ACPI does not specify a target window for a safe shutdown. It is
entirely up to the OEM to build in a safe
buffer that it sees fit for the target platform.


								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-07 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-04 10:30 Presario DANGER ruud koendering
     [not found] ` <200211041130.44371.ruud.koendering-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2002-11-04 10:45   ` Markus Gaugusch
2002-11-04 12:55   ` Alan Cox
     [not found]     ` <1036414528.1113.8.camel-MMxVpc8zpTQVh3rx8e9g/fyykp6/JSeS3vcXtXqGYxw@public.gmane.org>
2002-11-07 17:13       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2002-11-04 17:40   ` Ruud Koendering
     [not found]     ` <200211041840.59356.ruud.koendering-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2002-11-04 18:41       ` Ducrot Bruno
2002-11-07 17:10   ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-04 20:10 Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)

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