Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Roger Luethi wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:43:56 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> > w.r.t. power management:
> >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
> >     powering down message)
> >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
> >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
> >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> 
> On some machines APIC (sic) support can cause this. Try turning off UP APIC
> if you have it turned on.

If I turn off CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC I get:

| ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
| You can enable it with acpi=force
| Sony Vaio laptop detected.

and ACPI is disabled. Halt doesn't work.

If I then pass `acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, `halt' works again and
powers off the machine, but `reboot' causes a black screen with IDE disk spun
down, but no restart.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Willy Tarreau]

On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 03:17:37PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
 
> If I turn off CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC I get:
> 
> | ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> | You can enable it with acpi=force
> | Sony Vaio laptop detected.
> 
> and ACPI is disabled. Halt doesn't work.
> 
> If I then pass `acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, `halt' works again and
> powers off the machine, but `reboot' causes a black screen with IDE disk spun
> down, but no restart.

Strangely, the problem you describe here what I got with local APIC enabled,
on a Vaio PCG-FX705 (athlon 1.3G). I think I will retry with a recent kernel
to be sure these problems vanished.

Regards,
Willy

Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Jos Hulzink]

On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 15:17, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> If I turn off CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC I get:
> | ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> | You can enable it with acpi=force
> | Sony Vaio laptop detected.
>
> and ACPI is disabled. Halt doesn't work.
>
> If I then pass `acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, `halt' works again
> and powers off the machine, but `reboot' causes a black screen with IDE
> disk spun down, but no restart.
>
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

My PIII 650 with 2000 BIOS boots linux with acpi disabled for the same reason, 
unless force ACPI support. It reboots fine with ACPI forced. The ACPI support 
of this Intel BX mobo is good, so this is a false negative IMHO. (I wonder if 
the check is correct, shouldn't it say 2000 instead of 00 ?)

Jos

Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Jos Hulzink wrote:
> On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 15:17, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > If I turn off CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC I get:
> > | ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> > | You can enable it with acpi=force
> > | Sony Vaio laptop detected.
> >
> > and ACPI is disabled. Halt doesn't work.
> >
> > If I then pass `acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, `halt' works again
> > and powers off the machine, but `reboot' causes a black screen with IDE
> > disk spun down, but no restart.
> >
> > Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
> My PIII 650 with 2000 BIOS boots linux with acpi disabled for the same reason, 
> unless force ACPI support. It reboots fine with ACPI forced. The ACPI support 
> of this Intel BX mobo is good, so this is a false negative IMHO. (I wonder if 
> the check is correct, shouldn't it say 2000 instead of 00 ?)

If year < 90 it adds 2000 so that's OK. But the code needs ACPI from 2001 or
more recent, so my BIOS from 2000 fails...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Markus Gaugusch]

On Sep 20, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> If I then pass `acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, `halt' works
> again and powers off the machine, but `reboot' causes a black screen
> with IDE disk spun down, but no restart.
This "reboot-problem" is caused if you have APIC enabled (don't confuse
with ACPI!). See my homepage http://gaugusch.at/vaio/

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> > On some machines APIC (sic) support can cause this. Try turning off UP APIC
> > if you have it turned on.
> 
> If I turn off CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC I get:
> 
> | ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> | You can enable it with acpi=force
> | Sony Vaio laptop detected.
> 
> and ACPI is disabled. Halt doesn't work.
> 
> If I then pass _acpi=force' to explicitly enable ACPI, _halt' works again and
> powers off the machine, but _reboot' causes a black screen with IDE disk spun
> down, but no restart.

If acpi is actually usefull there, we might want to whitelist it.
Try other reboot methods...
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Written on sharp zaurus, because my Velo1 broke. If you have Velo you don't need...

Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

	Hi,

With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
w.r.t. power management:
  - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
    powering down message)
  - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
  - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
    never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
    see any messages about this in the kernel log.

Relevant config options for 2.4.22:
| tux$ grep acpi .config
| # ACPI Support
| CONFIG_ACPI=y
| # CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
| CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
| # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
| # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
| CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
| # CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set
| tux$ 

Relevant config options for 2.4.21, which does poweroff/reboot without
problems:
| tux$ grep acpi .config
| # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set
| CONFIG_ACPI=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_BUSMGR=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_SYS=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_CPU=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_CMBATT=y
| CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
| tux$ 

If you need more information or want me to ttry something, please ask!

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:43:56 +0200 (MEST), Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>	Hi,
>
>With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
>w.r.t. power management:
>  - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
>    powering down message)
>  - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
>  - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
>    never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
>    see any messages about this in the kernel log.
>
>Relevant config options for 2.4.22:
>| tux$ grep acpi .config
>| # ACPI Support
>| CONFIG_ACPI=y
>| # CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
>| CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
>| CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
>| # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
>| # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
>| CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
>| # CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set
>| tux$ 
>
>If you need more information or want me to ttry something, please ask!

Hi,

 you have activate this opcion?
CONFIG_PM=y

without this my machine don't poweroff after halt.

chau,
 djgera


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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:43:56 +0200 (MEST), Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> >w.r.t. power management:
> >  - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
> >    powering down message)
> >  - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> >  - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
> >    never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
> >    see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> >
> >Relevant config options for 2.4.22:
> >| tux$ grep acpi .config
> >| # ACPI Support
> >| CONFIG_ACPI=y
> >| # CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> >| # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
> >| # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
> >| CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
> >| # CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set
> >| tux$ 
> >
> >If you need more information or want me to ttry something, please ask!
> 
>  you have activate this opcion?
> CONFIG_PM=y
> 
> without this my machine don't poweroff after halt.

Yes I have.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> w.r.t. power management:
>   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
>     powering down message)
>   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
>   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
>     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
>     see any messages about this in the kernel log.

It suspended to RAM... Did it also *resume* correctly?
									Pavel
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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> > w.r.t. power management:
> >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
> >     powering down message)
> >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
> >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
> >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> 
> It suspended to RAM... Did it also *resume* correctly?

Yes, since I could continue working without problems (except for lost Ethernet,
solved by ifdown -a/ifup -a).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> > > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> > > w.r.t. power management:
> > >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
> > >     powering down message)
> > >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> > >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
> > >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
> > >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> > 
> > It suspended to RAM... Did it also *resume* correctly?
> 
> Yes, since I could continue working without problems (except for lost Ethernet,
> solved by ifdown -a/ifup -a).

And was that acpi or apm? If it was acpi you saw a little miracle.

									Pavel

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Re: Vaio doesn't poweroff with 2.4.22

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > With 2.4.22, my Sony Vaio PCG-Z600TEK (s/600/505/ in US/JP) shows a regression
> > > > w.r.t. power management:
> > > >   - It doesn't poweroff anymore (screen contents are still there after the
> > > >     powering down message)
> > > >   - It doesn't reboot anymore (screen goes black, though)
> > > >   - It accidentally suspended to RAM once while I was actively working on it (I
> > > >     never managed to get suspend working, except for this `accident'). I didn't
> > > >     see any messages about this in the kernel log.
> > > 
> > > It suspended to RAM... Did it also *resume* correctly?
> > 
> > Yes, since I could continue working without problems (except for lost Ethernet,
> > solved by ifdown -a/ifup -a).
> 
> And was that acpi or apm? If it was acpi you saw a little miracle.

ACPI.

BTW, I just started to see other weird things that may be related to ACPI, but
aren't related to Linux (machine powers down 1 second after power up, etc.),
but now it's fine again (running 2.4.21).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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