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From: Alan Hourihane <alanh-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Karol Kozimor <sziwan-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>,
	Ducrot Bruno <ducrot-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Applications & ACPI events
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031015170735.GD1921@fairlite.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150907450.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:20:22AM -0700, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> 
> > > Well, it depends on what X (and in general userspace) needs to know on a 
> > > power-state transition. Alan, how does/will X behave differently for each 
> > > power state that we can enter? 
> >  
> > Not normally, but it can. X has two functions called EnterVT() and LeaveVT()
> > when switching VT's, but we can also define a function called PMEvent() in
> > each driver to do specific things based on the PM event type. Now back
> > in the days of APM we can handle various things, and the only driver that
> > implements the extended functionality of PMEvent() currently is the Intel
> > i830 driver. Traditionally though, during an APM event we'd normally just
> > called the drivers EnterVT()/LeaveVT() function.
> 
> Not quite what I was looking for, but thanks. 
 
Then, can you elaborate on what you are looking for ??

> What state would the i830 driver save? 

Driver specific stuff. Anything it wants to...
 
> What more would you expect to save with ACPI?

Nothing. I'm not sure what your asking here. The EnterVT/LeaveVT functions
do all the save and restoring of the driver specific state, so if the
kernel is doing a VT switch for us, then X should work out of the box.

> Do you expect XInput drivers to care? 
 
Possibly, it's not something I've considered yet. I'd like to get the
graphics driver doing the right thing first.

> > Currently I've got X opening /proc/acpi/events and acting upon them, but
> > obviously this race condition is with the kernel shutting us down before
> > X has a chance to catch up. This is where the stickling point is on
> > how to signal X from the kernel.
> 
> It's actually a lot cleaner, and a lot easier to use the hotplug interface 
> that I described before. We can extend the X API to include a PM event 
> signalling mechanism. The hotplug scripts can call some simple X app that 
> sends the message to the server and causes the graphics driver (and any 
> XInput drivers that need the message) to save state. 
> 
> This would also be portable across Linux platforms that used different 
> mechanisms for reading PM events from the kernel (acpid or some APM 
> daemon); and across OSes that have similar needs.

I know. I've now got to go off and plug up some solution for the hotplug
scripts to signal X.

Alan.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-15 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-30 16:59 Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
     [not found] ` <20030930165926.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-09-30 17:36   ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]     ` <20030930173646.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-03 19:38       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20031003193814.GE205-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 12:49           ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]             ` <20031006124935.GQ11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 13:05               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <20031006130533.GA311-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 10:27                   ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]                     ` <20031008102745.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 19:16                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20031008191610.GB1035-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:53                           ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                             ` <20031008215342.GE1920-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:58                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                 ` <20031008215850.GF1238-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 12:36                                   ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                     ` <20031009123620.GD13739-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:32                                       ` Applications & ACPI eventse Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20031009213245.GB365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 23:56                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                             ` <20031009235607.GA13514-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10  7:12                                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031010071231.GA285-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 11:19                                                   ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                     ` <20031010111934.GA10620-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 12:37                                                       ` Bas Mevissen
     [not found]                                                         ` <3F86A7F7.6090406-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:17                                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031010131739.GA24389-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:57                                                               ` Bas Mevissen
2003-10-10  7:43                                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-09 14:06                                   ` Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                     ` <20031009140648.GH1922-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:35                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20031009213504.GC365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:10                                           ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]                                             ` <20031013131022.GN11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:38                                               ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031013133837.GA9178-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 15:28                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                     ` <20031013152807.GD15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:14                                                       ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                         ` <20031013161445.GA32511-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:19                                                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031013161937.GF15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:01                                                               ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031013170119.GB18363-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:05                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-13 17:09                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310130958540.17450-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:17                                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                         ` <20031013171704.GH15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 18:59                                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031013185914.GB1958-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 19:08                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14 23:04                                                           ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310141556320.803-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:45                                                               ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031014234538.GD1918-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:55                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20031014235550.GE20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15  0:01                                                                       ` Karol Kozimor
2003-10-15 16:20                                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150907450.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 17:07                                                                       ` Alan Hourihane [this message]
2003-10-14 23:52                                                               ` Hardware state saving & X Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031014235240.GD20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:32                                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150924400.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 19:13                                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-16  0:10                                                                       ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20031016001001.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-16 15:38                                                                           ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-13 15:26                                               ` Applications & ACPI events Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031013152637.GC15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:21                                                   ` Ducrot Bruno
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-15 17:01 Grover, Andrew
     [not found] ` <F760B14C9561B941B89469F59BA3A8470255EF4E-sBd4vmA9Se4Lll3ZsUKC9FDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:59   ` Patrick Mochel

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