From: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Karol Kozimor <sziwan-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>,
Ducrot Bruno <ducrot-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Alan Hourihane
<alanh-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Hardware state saving & X
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031015191312.GA982@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150924400.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
Hi!
> > > Well, it depends on what X (and in general userspace) needs to know on a
> > > power-state transition. Alan, how does/will X behave differently for each
> > > power state that we can enter?
> >
> > Different scripts should run on apm -s (BIOS saves most of hw state)
> > and S3 (we have to save most of hw state).
>
> The fact that different behavior exists is completely obvious (refer to
> the question and documentation). The question was *how* it was different
> from a userpsace perspective. I.e. what exactly is saved, and what isn't.
>
> Under APM, the BIOS handles the state transition, but it does not know
> each device initimately, so the OS still has to handle some of the device
> state.
I guess you answered yourself ;-). X is hardware driver. On some
machines, video is handled by bios during apm -s. That's not the case
during S3. Therefore X wants to know if it should do hardware saving
or not.
[Of course, X might want to save allways (simulated console switch).]
> Video devices have an int10 call to save/restore state, which is what the
> APM BIOS uses.
Could you elaborate? I'm not aware of int10 call doing that... That
would solve S3 video problems, right? I was told that we can't call
int10 at all from real mode because pci might not yet be intialized
during acpi_wakeup.S; but it works on machines I have here.
Pavel
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2003-09-30 16:59 Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20030930165926.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-09-30 17:36 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20030930173646.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-03 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031003193814.GE205-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 12:49 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031006124935.GQ11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 13:05 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031006130533.GA311-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 10:27 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031008102745.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 19:16 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031008191610.GB1035-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:53 ` Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031008215342.GE1920-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:58 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031008215850.GF1238-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 12:36 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031009123620.GD13739-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:32 ` Applications & ACPI eventse Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031009213245.GB365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 23:56 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031009235607.GA13514-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 7:12 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031010071231.GA285-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 11:19 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031010111934.GA10620-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 12:37 ` Bas Mevissen
[not found] ` <3F86A7F7.6090406-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:17 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031010131739.GA24389-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:57 ` Bas Mevissen
2003-10-10 7:43 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-09 14:06 ` Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031009140648.GH1922-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:35 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031009213504.GC365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:10 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031013131022.GN11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:38 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013133837.GA9178-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 15:28 ` Pavel Machek
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2003-10-13 16:14 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013161445.GA32511-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:19 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013161937.GF15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:01 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013170119.GB18363-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:05 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-13 17:09 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310130958540.17450-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:17 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013171704.GH15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 18:59 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013185914.GB1958-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 19:08 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14 23:04 ` Patrick Mochel
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2003-10-14 23:45 ` Alan Hourihane
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2003-10-14 23:55 ` Pavel Machek
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2003-10-15 0:01 ` Karol Kozimor
2003-10-15 16:20 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150907450.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 17:07 ` Alan Hourihane
2003-10-14 23:52 ` Hardware state saving & X Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031014235240.GD20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:32 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150924400.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 19:13 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-10-16 0:10 ` Alan Hourihane
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2003-10-16 15:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-13 15:26 ` Applications & ACPI events Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013152637.GC15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:21 ` Ducrot Bruno
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