List noise.

List noise.

[David Woodhouse]

All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if the list wasn't
accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't accepting bounces.

It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list against this.

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Re: List noise.

[Dave Jones]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:18:05PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
 > All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if the list wasn't
 > accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't accepting bounces.
 > 
 > It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list against this.

if you had control over the MTA, yes.
Sourceforget lists don't offer this power sadly.

		Dave



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Re: List noise.

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:41:59PM +0000, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:18:05PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
>  > All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if the list wasn't
>  > accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't accepting bounces.
>  > 
>  > It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list against this.
> 
> if you had control over the MTA, yes.
> Sourceforget lists don't offer this power sadly.

Another good reason to ditch sourceforgrot.

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because the adverts clearly weren't enough.

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Re: List noise.

[David Woodhouse]

On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 14:41 +0000, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:18:05PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
>  > All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if the list wasn't
>  > accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't accepting bounces.
>  > 
>  > It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list against this.
> 
> if you had control over the MTA, yes.
> Sourceforget lists don't offer this power sadly.

Mailman lets you filter on certain headers though, and trap messages for
moderation. Can't you do something like looking for a Message-ID
matching ^$ ? 

Likewise Return-Path matching <>?

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RE: List noise.

[Brown, Len]

Sure, I'm open to moving the list off sourceforge if there is clearly a
better choice.  Two other problems we've seen on sf are
1. latency is sometimes huge
2. archives sometimes unavailable, and not indexed by google.

In the mean-time, here are the mailman spam filters I've got on SF, a
couple I've added in the last 30-minutes.  It doesn't look like it can
search for a _missing_ field -- only positive matches.  I'm sure open to
suggestions for further improvement.

Thanks,
-Len

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org 
> [mailto:acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of 
> David Woodhouse
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:00 AM
> To: Dave Jones
> Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [ACPI] List noise.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 14:41 +0000, Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:18:05PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >  > All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if 
> the list wasn't
> >  > accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't 
> accepting bounces.
> >  > 
> >  > It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list 
> against this.
> > 
> > if you had control over the MTA, yes.
> > Sourceforget lists don't offer this power sadly.
> 
> Mailman lets you filter on certain headers though, and trap 
> messages for
> moderation. Can't you do something like looking for a Message-ID
> matching ^$ ? 
> 
> Likewise Return-Path matching <>?
> 
> -- 
> dwmw2
> 
> 
> 
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RE: List noise.

[Arjen Verweij]

Some people procmail emails for the following strings, which is alledgedly
present in most W32 executables:

 * IbgBTM0hVGhpcyBwcm9ncmFtIGNhbm5vdCBiZSBydW4gaW4g|IbgBTM0hkJBUaGlzIHByb2dyYW0gbXVzdCBiZSBydW4gdW5kZXIgV2lu

Note: the pipe is the procmail OR, but I'm sure you know this.

Maybe this helps vs virusses.

Arjen

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Brown, Len wrote:

> Sure, I'm open to moving the list off sourceforge if there is clearly a
> better choice.  Two other problems we've seen on sf are
> 1. latency is sometimes huge
> 2. archives sometimes unavailable, and not indexed by google.
>
> In the mean-time, here are the mailman spam filters I've got on SF, a
> couple I've added in the last 30-minutes.  It doesn't look like it can
> search for a _missing_ field -- only positive matches.  I'm sure open to
> suggestions for further improvement.
>
> Thanks,
> -Len
>
> # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments.
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> > [mailto:acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> > David Woodhouse
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:00 AM
> > To: Dave Jones
> > Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> > Subject: Re: [ACPI] List noise.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 14:41 +0000, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:18:05PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > >  > All this noise on the list would be so easily avoided if
> > the list wasn't
> > >  > accepting messages without a Message-ID, and wasn't
> > accepting bounces.
> > >  >
> > >  > It's not hard -- it'd take _moments_ to protect the list
> > against this.
> > >
> > > if you had control over the MTA, yes.
> > > Sourceforget lists don't offer this power sadly.
> >
> > Mailman lets you filter on certain headers though, and trap
> > messages for
> > moderation. Can't you do something like looking for a Message-ID
> > matching ^$ ?
> >
> > Likewise Return-Path matching <>?
> >
> > --
> > dwmw2
> >
> >
> >
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Re: List noise.

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> Sure, I'm open to moving the list off sourceforge if there is clearly a
> better choice.  Two other problems we've seen on sf are
> 1. latency is sometimes huge
> 2. archives sometimes unavailable, and not indexed by google.
> 
> In the mean-time, here are the mailman spam filters I've got on SF, a
> couple I've added in the last 30-minutes.  It doesn't look like it can
> search for a _missing_ field -- only positive matches.  I'm sure open to
> suggestions for further improvement.

What about linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org? kernel list has good filters
against spam, anyway, and that should really not be a problem.

Oh and you forgot 

3. advertising

									Pavel

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