From: Nate Lawson <nate-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
To: "Scott T. Smith" <scott-j3vAvQ9dNB9ByuSxxbvQtw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:29:45 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040209122256.K74314@root.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1075964148.5017.7.camel-3lu5YwujmwObGSPjaX/RoA@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Scott T. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 21:15, Brown, Len wrote:
> > Windows doesn't have to do anything. By being first to ship ACPI, that
> > implementation provided the defacto ACPI compliance test to which all
> > BIOS' are tested -- even if that implementation is not ACPI spec
> > compliant. No, only under dire circumstances will we emulate Windows
> > bugs in Linux.
>
> So basically we shouldn't use ACPI then, and instead use APM?
>
> If Linux ACPI could emulate the bugs that Windows has, then ACPI would
> work on Linux on most platforms right away. That would make Linux more
> accessible to people. Linux already has a bunch of hacks to support
> broken hardware which presumably Windows can work around; this seems to
> be just another one of those.
We're doing something slightly different with ACPI on FreeBSD. We add
hacks^Wworkarounds for buggy DSDT whenever possible but they are under a
kernel option, #ifndef ACPICA_PEDANTIC. The default is for this option to
give maximum compatibility with the stock DSDT, at the expense of spec
correctness. However, by adding that option and compiling a kernel, OEMs
could test against ACPI-CA as a reference implementation while ordinary
users get maximum compatibility.
I think the ACPI-CA developers should take a similar tact. Len, who is on
the Linux side, could suggest distribution maintainers use the option that
gives maximum Windows compatibility when shipping a distro. Bob, who is
on the ACPI-CA side, could encourage OEMs to test with the option
disabled. It might even make sense for a Linux distro maintainer to
partner with ACPI-CA to provide a reference ISO that OEMs could boot that
had a /sbin/init that tests the various APIs for correctness. Both Andy
and I thought this was a good direction to go and perhaps people are
already making progress in that area.
-Nate
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2004-02-05 5:15 RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8AB6-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 6:55 ` Scott T. Smith
[not found] ` <1075964148.5017.7.camel-3lu5YwujmwObGSPjaX/RoA@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 10:00 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-09 20:29 ` Nate Lawson [this message]
[not found] ` <20040209122256.K74314-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-09 21:23 ` Len Brown
2004-02-11 16:37 ` ACPI_STRICT_COMPLIANCE (was RE: RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT) Len Brown
[not found] ` <1076517428.12955.32.camel-D2Zvc0uNKG8@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-11 17:51 ` Nate Lawson
2004-02-12 10:19 ` RE: ACPI -- Workaround for broken DSDT Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-05 7:29 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205082926.660974d2.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 12:09 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-05 11:34 ` Bas Mevissen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-11 6:31 Yu, Luming
2004-02-05 14:33 Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)
[not found] ` <C50AB9511EE59B49B2A503CB7AE1ABD1066111ED-Iar2LzuD2f6P0FQRY6S+e9kSKC0Mw0DFJ8am2ALHCgk@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 15:19 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205161923.37eebc64.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:07 ` Bas Mevissen
[not found] ` <40226A58.5080004-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:24 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20040205172405.01777986.ak-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 17:15 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-05 15:55 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-06 19:33 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-02-05 8:10 Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8AB9-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 8:58 ` Luca Capello
[not found] ` <402205B0.3000607-wlebWZzHoyE@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 22:43 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-02-05 15:44 ` Scott T. Smith
[not found] ` <1075995857.5758.43.camel-3lu5YwujmwObGSPjaX/RoA@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-05 16:13 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-02-04 7:22 Brown, Len
[not found] ` <BF1FE1855350A0479097B3A0D2A80EE0CC8A9F-N2PTB0HCzHJF3Yvz3xaN/VDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-04 7:49 ` Arjen Verweij
2004-02-05 2:18 ` Scott T. Smith
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