dell inspiron 8600 not working

dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Spike Spiegel]

Hi all,

I've got n inspiron 8600 and can't get sleep/susped to disk/ram
working. well can't control fans too, but I don't care that much atm.

I've googled for more than a week now, tryed everything I found (but for
kernel upgrade to 2.6). Info I got was generally outdated or incomplete, or
about different bios/kernel version, and I haven't been able to find the
"working combo" (if it exists). I read about DSDT patching too, but
didn't understand if I need that or not, than DSDT available are for
bios A03. should I downgrade?
I've also read about possible problems between nvidia cards and ACPI,
but here too didn't fully understand the question and what I should
do/check.

Hope you can help me out with this thing,

tia.

Spike

--- SYSTEM DETAILS -----

BIOS: A06

kernel: 2.4.26 (from kernel.org, no patch applyed)

dmesg | grep -i acpi:
ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL                                      ) @ 0x000fdf00
ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELL    CPi R   0x27d4031f ASL  0x00000061) @ 0x1fff0000
ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL    CPi R   0x27d4031f ASL  0x00000061) @ 0x1fff0400
ACPI: DSDT (v001 INT430 SYSFexxx 0x00001001 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S1 S3 S4bios S4 S5)
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 5 7)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIE._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: if you experience problems, try using option 'pci=noacpi' or even
'acpi=off'
ACPI: AC Adapter [AC] (on-line)
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN]
ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SBTN]
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2 C3, 7 performance states, 8
throttling states)
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM] (30 C)

cat /proc/acpi/info 
version:                 20040326
states:                  S0 S1 S3 S4 S4Bios S5

lspci:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 81)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go 5200] (rev a1)
0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
0000:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
0000:02:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller
0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)

nvidia packages
ii  nvidia-glx     1.0.5336-9     NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.5336-9+spi NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.4.26
ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.5336-1     NVIDIA binary kernel module common files

from lilo.conf
append="acpi=on"

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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Herman Sheremetyev]

Hi Spike,

As far as I know the 2.4 kernels don't support ACPI suspend, you'll need
to upgrade to the latest 2.6.

-Herman

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 07:05, Spike Spiegel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've got n inspiron 8600 and can't get sleep/susped to disk/ram
> working. well can't control fans too, but I don't care that much atm.
> 
> I've googled for more than a week now, tryed everything I found (but for
> kernel upgrade to 2.6). Info I got was generally outdated or incomplete, or
> about different bios/kernel version, and I haven't been able to find the
> "working combo" (if it exists). I read about DSDT patching too, but
> didn't understand if I need that or not, than DSDT available are for
> bios A03. should I downgrade?
> I've also read about possible problems between nvidia cards and ACPI,
> but here too didn't fully understand the question and what I should
> do/check.
> 
> Hope you can help me out with this thing,
> 
> tia.
> 
> Spike
> 
> --- SYSTEM DETAILS -----
> 
> BIOS: A06
> 
> kernel: 2.4.26 (from kernel.org, no patch applyed)
> 
> dmesg | grep -i acpi:
> ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL                                      ) @ 0x000fdf00
> ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELL    CPi R   0x27d4031f ASL  0x00000061) @ 0x1fff0000
> ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL    CPi R   0x27d4031f ASL  0x00000061) @ 0x1fff0400
> ACPI: DSDT (v001 INT430 SYSFexxx 0x00001001 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000
> ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
> ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
> ACPI: Interpreter enabled
> ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
> ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S1 S3 S4bios S4 S5)
> ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 5 7)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIE._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 11
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
> PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
> PCI: if you experience problems, try using option 'pci=noacpi' or even
> 'acpi=off'
> ACPI: AC Adapter [AC] (on-line)
> ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
> ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)
> ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
> ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN]
> ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SBTN]
> ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2 C3, 7 performance states, 8
> throttling states)
> ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM] (30 C)
> 
> cat /proc/acpi/info 
> version:                 20040326
> states:                  S0 S1 S3 S4 S4Bios S5
> 
> lspci:
> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
> 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 81)
> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
> 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go 5200] (rev a1)
> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
> 0000:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
> 0000:02:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller
> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
> 
> nvidia packages
> ii  nvidia-glx     1.0.5336-9     NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
> ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.5336-9+spi NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.4.26
> ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.5336-1     NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
> 
> from lilo.conf
> append="acpi=on"



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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Bruno Ducrot]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:16:29AM -0400, Herman Sheremetyev wrote:
> Hi Spike,
> 
> As far as I know the 2.4 kernels don't support ACPI suspend, you'll need
> to upgrade to the latest 2.6.
> 

It's support S1 and S4bios only actually, though there is likely that
S4bios do not work with the nVidia stuff.

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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Bruno Ducrot]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 01:05:37PM +0200, Spike Spiegel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've got n inspiron 8600 and can't get sleep/susped to disk/ram
> working. well can't control fans too, but I don't care that much atm.
> 
> I've googled for more than a week now, tryed everything I found (but for
> kernel upgrade to 2.6). Info I got was generally outdated or incomplete, or
> about different bios/kernel version, and I haven't been able to find the
> "working combo" (if it exists). I read about DSDT patching too, but
> didn't understand if I need that or not, than DSDT available are for
> bios A03. should I downgrade?
> I've also read about possible problems between nvidia cards and ACPI,
> but here too didn't fully understand the question and what I should
> do/check.

If really what you need is suspend/resume especially on a 2.4 kernel,
you may want to test if APM work better for you.  2.4 kernels do support
only S1 and S4bios (and maybe S4 via some patches), but AFAIK,
developpers loose interrest to support those functionnality in a 2.4
kernel, and those S1 and S4bios are likely unstable under 2.4.


Cheers,

-- 
Bruno Ducrot

--  Which is worse:  ignorance or apathy?
--  Don't know.  Don't care.


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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Spike Spiegel]

It was a dark and stormy night on 2004/07/16 when I heard Bruno Ducrot yelling:

[cut]
> If really what you need is suspend/resume especially on a 2.4 kernel,
> you may want to test if APM work better for you.  

uhm, thought APM wasn't supported anymore by this BIOS.

>2.4 kernels do support
> only S1 and S4bios (and maybe S4 via some patches), but AFAIK,
> developpers loose interrest to support those functionnality in a 2.4
> kernel, and those S1 and S4bios are likely unstable under 2.4.

ok, guess I'll try to upgrade in a little while, I really need susped to
disk.

Could you please point me somewhere I can read about required steps
to get S4 working on 2.6?


[cut]
> --  Which is worse:  ignorance or apathy?
> --  Don't know.  Don't care.

one of my favorite sigs ever

tnx, bye

Spike

-- 
Excess ain't rebellion.
You're drinking what they're selling.
Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them.
Your chaos won't convert them.
They're so happy to rebuild it.
You'll never really kill it.


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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Bruno Ducrot]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:25:24PM +0200, Spike Spiegel wrote:
> It was a dark and stormy night on 2004/07/16 when I heard Bruno Ducrot yelling:
> 
> [cut]
> > If really what you need is suspend/resume especially on a 2.4 kernel,
> > you may want to test if APM work better for you.  
> 
> uhm, thought APM wasn't supported anymore by this BIOS.
> 
> >2.4 kernels do support
> > only S1 and S4bios (and maybe S4 via some patches), but AFAIK,
> > developpers loose interrest to support those functionnality in a 2.4
> > kernel, and those S1 and S4bios are likely unstable under 2.4.
> 
> ok, guess I'll try to upgrade in a little while, I really need susped to
> disk.
> 
> Could you please point me somewhere I can read about required steps
> to get S4 working on 2.6?

If your only need is S4, you should try
http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/
which have been reported to work pretty well with 2.4 kernel also..

-- 
Bruno Ducrot

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Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Stefan Seyfried]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:25:24PM +0200, Spike Spiegel wrote:

> Could you please point me somewhere I can read about required steps
> to get S4 working on 2.6?

<shameless plug>
On SUSE Linux 9.1 swsusp aka S4 works pretty much out of the box on any
non-P4-HT i386 notebook i have laid my hands on over the last 6 months.
The binary nVidia module may not work, though.
</shameless plug>
-- 
Stefan Seyfried



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Re: Re: dell inspiron 8600 not working

[Bruno Ducrot]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 09:13:08AM -0000, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:25:24PM +0200, Spike Spiegel wrote:
> 
> > Could you please point me somewhere I can read about required steps
> > to get S4 working on 2.6?
> 
> <shameless plug>
> On SUSE Linux 9.1 swsusp aka S4 works pretty much out of the box on any
> non-P4-HT i386 notebook i have laid my hands on over the last 6 months.
> The binary nVidia module may not work, though.
> </shameless plug>

swsusp2 should be SMP safe for 2.4 kernels if I read correctly their
home page.

Cheers,

-- 
Bruno Ducrot

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