ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Arkadiusz Miskiewicz]

Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?

The case is ,,NX (Execute Disable)'' needs PAE to work on x86 but having S3 
working at the same time would be nice.
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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Len Brown]

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 17:30, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
> generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?
> 
> The case is ,,NX (Execute Disable)'' needs PAE to work on x86 but having S3 
> working at the same time would be nice.

This may be bit-rot.
The last time somebody tested this IIR  S3 worked
exactly the same in PAE as it did in conventional MMU mode.

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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Arkadiusz Miskiewicz]

On Monday 26 of July 2004 22:49, Len Brown wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 17:30, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
> > generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?
> >
> > The case is ,,NX (Execute Disable)'' needs PAE to work on x86 but having
> > S3 working at the same time would be nice.
>
> This may be bit-rot.
> The last time somebody tested this IIR  S3 worked
> exactly the same in PAE as it did in conventional MMU mode.
It didn't work for me unfortunately.

My laptop went into sleep, fan turned off but LCD turned all white. After 
closing and opeing LID, fan started again, LCD turned back to live but screen 
was corrupted, random characters in different places.

Unfortunately I never tested S3 on PAE-disabled kernel so it's possible that 
my problems are unrelated to PAE (I hope that's the case).

> -Len

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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
> generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?

Linux only. Hmm with recent enough kernel we needed to fix this for
different reason, so it might just work.

Remove check, test it, if it works submit a patch.
				Pavel
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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Arkadiusz Miskiewicz]

On Monday 26 of July 2004 23:00, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
> > generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?
>
> Linux only. Hmm with recent enough kernel we needed to fix this for
> different reason, so it might just work.
>
> Remove check, test it, if it works submit a patch.
Today while playing with suspend/resume support in via-rhine I had a chance to 
try it few more times (on 2.6.8rc2 with PAE enabled, maxdata notebook, 512MB 
ram, athlon, kt133 based mainboard).

Resuming works properly only somethimes. Once I have system back into nice 
shape, once I see that it starts resuming (fans are starting, screen changes) 
and it hangs, screen is corrupted (some color characters flashing), sysrq 
doesn't work.

> 				Pavel

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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> > > Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.''
> > > generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?
> >
> > Linux only. Hmm with recent enough kernel we needed to fix this for
> > different reason, so it might just work.
> >
> > Remove check, test it, if it works submit a patch.
> Today while playing with suspend/resume support in via-rhine I had a chance to 
> try it few more times (on 2.6.8rc2 with PAE enabled, maxdata notebook, 512MB 
> ram, athlon, kt133 based mainboard).
> 
> Resuming works properly only somethimes. Once I have system back into nice 
> shape, once I see that it starts resuming (fans are starting, screen changes) 
> and it hangs, screen is corrupted (some color characters flashing), sysrq 
> doesn't work.

Can you confirm that it works reliably with PAE disabled?

S3 is doing something "interesting" with page tables (switching to 1:1
mapping etc), it probably needs some hand-checking to see that it is
not non-PAE-specific.

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RE: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Brown, Len]

 
>> This may be bit-rot.
>> The last time somebody tested this IIR  S3 worked
>> exactly the same in PAE as it did in conventional MMU mode.
>It didn't work for me unfortunately.
>
>My laptop went into sleep, fan turned off but LCD turned all 
>white. After 
>closing and opeing LID, fan started again, LCD turned back to 
>live but screen 
>was corrupted, random characters in different places.
>
>Unfortunately I never tested S3 on PAE-disabled kernel so it's 
>possible that 
>my problems are unrelated to PAE (I hope that's the case).

Without testing the non-PAE case, this result is inconclusive.

In either case, it would probably be a good idea to run the
latest ACPI patch if you're experimenting with S3.
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/

cheers,
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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Arkadiusz Miskiewicz]

On Tuesday 27 of July 2004 03:34, Brown, Len wrote:

> >Unfortunately I never tested S3 on PAE-disabled kernel so it's
> >possible that
> >my problems are unrelated to PAE (I hope that's the case).
>
> Without testing the non-PAE case, this result is inconclusive.
Tested non-PAE case, it worked (with few USB related problems) but my laptop 
was able to resume and react to my commands (+ no screen corruptions).

> In either case, it would probably be a good idea to run the
> latest ACPI patch if you're experimenting with S3.
> http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/
Will test with them next time which will be probably tommorow.

> cheers,
> -Len

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RE: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Li, Shaohua]

Hi,
I did test it in my desktop (disabling HT and removing the check), and
it worked. Is there any special reason that you disabled it before?

Thanks,
Shaohua

>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
>admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:00 AM
>To: Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
>Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3
>disabled.
>
>Hi!
>
>> Is this ,,ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3
disabled.''
>> generic S3 and PAE issue or just Linux issue only?
>
>Linux only. Hmm with recent enough kernel we needed to fix this for
>different reason, so it might just work.
>
>Remove check, test it, if it works submit a patch.
>				Pavel
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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> I did test it in my desktop (disabling HT and removing the check), and
> it worked. Is there any special reason that you disabled it before?

That reason no longer applies. Can you submit a patch?
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RE: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Li, Shaohua]

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Hi,
The patch is very sample. Tested in one desktop (Dell precision 350).

Thanks,
Shaohua

===== arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c 1.4 vs edited =====
--- 1.4/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2003-08-06 02:29:57 +08:00
+++ edited/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2004-07-28 17:15:45
+08:00
@@ -77,10 +77,7 @@ void __init acpi_reserve_bootmem(void)
 		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Wakeup code way too big, S3
disabled.\n");
 		return;
 	}
-#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
-	printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for
now, S3 disabled.\n");
-	return;
-#endif
+
 	acpi_wakeup_address = (unsigned
long)alloc_bootmem_low(PAGE_SIZE);
 	if (!acpi_wakeup_address)
 		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Cannot allocate lowmem, S3
disabled.\n");


>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
>admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:29 PM
>To: Li, Shaohua
>Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3
>disabled.
>
>Hi!
>
>> I did test it in my desktop (disabling HT and removing the check),
and
>> it worked. Is there any special reason that you disabled it before?
>
>That reason no longer applies. Can you submit a patch?
>								Pavel
>
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===== arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c 1.4 vs edited =====
--- 1.4/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2003-08-06 02:29:57 +08:00
+++ edited/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2004-07-28 17:15:45 +08:00
@@ -77,10 +77,7 @@ void __init acpi_reserve_bootmem(void)
 		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Wakeup code way too big, S3 disabled.\n");
 		return;
 	}
-#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
-	printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.\n");
-	return;
-#endif
+
 	acpi_wakeup_address = (unsigned long)alloc_bootmem_low(PAGE_SIZE);
 	if (!acpi_wakeup_address)
 		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Cannot allocate lowmem, S3 disabled.\n");

Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> The patch is very sample. Tested in one desktop (Dell precision
> 350).

Its wordwrapped, but looks good. If it worked once, its probably safe
;-).

								Pavel


> ===== arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c 1.4 vs edited =====
> --- 1.4/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2003-08-06 02:29:57 +08:00
> +++ edited/arch/i386/kernel/acpi/sleep.c	2004-07-28 17:15:45
> +08:00
> @@ -77,10 +77,7 @@ void __init acpi_reserve_bootmem(void)
>  		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Wakeup code way too big, S3
> disabled.\n");
>  		return;
>  	}
> -#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
> -	printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for
> now, S3 disabled.\n");
> -	return;
> -#endif
> +
>  	acpi_wakeup_address = (unsigned
> long)alloc_bootmem_low(PAGE_SIZE);
>  	if (!acpi_wakeup_address)
>  		printk(KERN_ERR "ACPI: Cannot allocate lowmem, S3
> disabled.\n");
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:acpi-devel-
> >admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:29 PM
> >To: Li, Shaohua
> >Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> >Subject: Re: [ACPI] ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3
> >disabled.
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >> I did test it in my desktop (disabling HT and removing the check),
> and
> >> it worked. Is there any special reason that you disabled it before?
> >
> >That reason no longer applies. Can you submit a patch?
> >								Pavel
> >
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Re: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled.

[Arkadiusz Miskiewicz]

On Tuesday 17 of August 2004 01:43, you wrote:

> >Can you confirm that it works reliably with PAE disabled?
>
> Did you get a chance to check this. Does this system
> suspend-resumes reliably with PAE disabled. And has this hang
> only with PAE enabled.
I've tested 2.6.8.1 kernel with ACPI patch 20040715
- with PAE enabled - unfortunately no change. System hangs after resume 
sometimes in a way I've already described.
- without PAE enabled it wasn't much better

first went ok
PM: Preparing system for suspend
orinoco_lock() called with hw_unavailable (dev=ddbc0800)
PM: Entering state.
Back to C!
APIC error on CPU0: 00(00)
PM: Finishing up.
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.3[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
eth1: New link status: Connected (0001)

second went ok but at third time I got:
PM: Entering state.
Back to C!
double fault, gdt at c030d000 [255 bytes]
double fault, tss at c035e800
eip c0117824, esp d03fffb8
eax 00000068, ebx 7073006e, ecx = 0000007b, edx = d040006c
esi 00000000, edi = c0117810
(rewrote by hand so some typos are possible, system hangt after this that 
sysrq wasn't even working)

> Thanks,
> Venki

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