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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-10  9:37 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-10 13:33 ` dev_zero
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-10  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

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It means there was NO event generated at that time.
Do you think the symptom is gone with my debug patch?
If so, I think your box need a more sane schedule for acpi_thermal_check 
And, I can come up with a patch.

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>Sent: 2004年11月10日 1:06
>To: Yu, Luming
>Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>When I try to output the event file I do this:
>[root@balder: /proc/acpi]# cat event > /home/event.log
>
>But then It just stands there without doing anything.
>So i tried to check what was wrong (ps ax) command:
>2922 pts/0    S+     0:00 cat event
>
>I don't know if it is supposed to be suspended?
>> I want to know what kind of events could be
>> generated heavily, which could have corresponding
>> pending execution of AML method issued to work queue
>> handled by kacpid.  So just cat /proc/acpi/event >
>> event.log
>> to me when you were observing abnormal  cpu
>> consumption by kacpid.  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Luming 
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> >Sent: 2004Äê11ÔÂ10ÈÕ 0:00
>> >To: Yu, Luming
>> >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >
>> >Of course.. But which log files do you want to take
>> a
>> >look at?
>> >> >How am i supppose to get an output from
>> >> >/proc/acpi/event ??? I can't access the file,
>> >> because
>> >> >it's in use.
>> >> 
>> >> Just kill acpid or the similar.
>> >> 
>> >> 
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-16  3:29 Yu, Luming
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-16  3:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
  Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

The big slowdown you saw shouldn't be caused by that code change, which
just means issuing poll at  5s frequency. I think it's self-effacing enough. :-)

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi [mailto:gcs-gKC9iF2I70U@public.gmane.org] 
>Sent: 2004年11月16日 8:36
>To: Yu, Luming
>Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>* Yu, Luming <luming.yu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> [2004-11-09 16:23:13 +0800]:
>
>> I suspect we need a sane check against sleep_time.
>> Please testing the following debug patch.
> Tried. The bug still exists, but now kacpid does not stuck in a D
>state and I can power off the machine, it does not fail with
>acpi_power_off called as a last message.
>
>> Also, please sent the output of the activity in /proc/acpi/event .
> I need to stop acpid, but doing a cat after it, I do not see any
>output. How am I supposed to get an output?
>
>> 
>> +       sleep_time = 5000; /* 5 seconds */
>> +
>>         /*
> It just slows down the polling on /proc/acpi/event , right? It helps,
>as see above, but if I run a CPU intense application, mozilla loading a
>big page, or trying to watch a movie, then I see a big slowdown.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Laszlo
>
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-11 16:51 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-11 16:57 ` dev_zero
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-11 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev_zero, Wang, Zhenyu Z; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Hmm, interesting, you did narrow the issue 
down to GPE storm. I will check the
code, and come up with a elegant patch. 
Thanks for your hard work.  :-)

Did you send your DSDT to me?
I want to be sure nothing dropped for
solving this issue,

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>Sent: 2004年11月12日 0:37
>To: Yu, Luming; Wang, Zhenyu Z
>Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>When I applied the secon patch the kacpid never
>started, i think, because it never started lagging..
>Is this The fix then?? Or is this just an "ugly" hack?
>
> --- "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com> wrote: 
>> Did you try the patches I sent you to narrow down
>> the issue?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Luming 
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> >Sent: 2004年11月11日 23:26
>> >To: Wang, Zhenyu Z
>> >Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Yu, Luming
>> >Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >
>> >When I applied this patch.. I could play even
>> longer
>> >than last time, before kacpid started running at
>> 99%
>> >cpu usage. First I played longer than usual, then
>> >kacpid started running but not with 99% cpu usage,
>> >then it stopped. It went like this a couple of
>> times
>> >then kacpid started with 99% cpu usage again.
>> >Don't know if the patch worked correctly, but I
>> >thought the kacpid should go S5, shutdown,
>> shouldn't
>> >it?
>> >
>> > --- "Wang, Zhenyu" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com>
>> wrote: 
>> >> copy these from acpi_thermal_remove, does this
>> >> workaround your issue?
>> >> 
>> >> ---
>> >> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>> >> 2004-11-10 23:38:51.000000000 +0800
>> >> +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c	2004-11-11
>> >> 09:19:57.365634568 +0800
>> >> @@ -472,6 +472,13 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> >>  	printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature reached
>> >> (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> >> KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> >>  	acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> >> ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> >> tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> >>  
>> >> +	tz->zombie = 1;
>> >> +	/* wait for running timer (on other CPUs)
>> finish
>> >> */
>> >> +	del_timer_sync(&(tz->timer));
>> >> +	/* synchronize deferred task */
>> >> +	acpi_os_wait_events_complete(NULL);
>> >> +	/* deferred task may reinsert timer */
>> >> +	del_timer_sync(&(tz->timer));
>> >>  
>> >>
>>
>>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> >>  
>> >>  	return_VALUE(0);
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On 2004.11.10 18:09:45 +0000, dev_zero wrote:
>> >> > This patch actually made some difference. I
>> could
>> >> play
>> >> > much longer now. First it started lagging, then
>> it
>> >> > stopped, then it started lagging again, then it
>> >> > stopped. It went like this for a while, but
>> after
>> >> I
>> >> > had played som more, it started lagging again
>> but
>> >> now
>> >> > it didn't stop.
>> >> > 
>> >> >  --- "Wang, Zhenyu" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com>
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> > > oops,
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > ---
>> >> > >
>> >> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>> >> > > 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> >> > > +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c
>> 2004-11-10
>> >> > > 23:52:40.820975856 +0800
>> >> > > @@ -472,6 +472,8 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> >> > >  	printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature
>> >> reached
>> >> > > (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> >> > > KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> >> > >  	acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> >> > > ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> >> > > tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> >> > >  
>> >> > > +	tz->zombie = 1;
>> >> > > +	acpi_os_wait_events_complete(NULL);
>> >> > >  
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> >> > >  
>> >> > >  	return_VALUE(0);
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > If this has no help, maybe others eat up
>> >> kacpid..
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > On 2004.11.10 23:44:33 +0000, Wang, Zhenyu
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > > Pls try this patch,
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > ---
>> >> > >
>> >> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>>  
>> >> > > 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> >> > > > +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c    
>> >> 2004-11-10
>> >> > > 23:39:50.195128792 +0800
>> >> > > > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> >> > > >         printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical
>> >> temperature
>> >> > > reached (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> >> > > KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> >> > > >         acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> >> > > ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> >> > > tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > +       tz->zombie = 1;
>> >> > > >        
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > >         return_VALUE(0);
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > Is this work?
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > -zhen
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > On 2004.11.10 14:33:35 +0000, dev_zero
>> wrote:
>> >> > > > > kacpid still runns with 99%cpu usage when
>> >> the
>> >> > > cpu gets
>> >> > > > > too hot. I tried the game quake 2. You
>> can
>> >> play
>> >> > > around
>> >> > > > > 10 -15 minutes before the kacpid starts
>> >> running
>> >> > > on 99%
>> >> > > > > cpu usage. I also used quake 2 too test
>> the
>> >> > > kernel
>> >> > > > > before I applied your patch.
>> >> > > > > 
>> >> > > > >  --- "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com>
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> > > > > > It means there was NO event generated
>> at
>> >> that
>> >> > > time.
>> >> > > > > > Do you think the symptom is gone with
>> my
>> >> debug
>> >> > > > > > patch?
>> >> > > > > > If so, I think your box need a more
>> sane
>> >> > > schedule
>> >> > > > > > for acpi_thermal_check 
>> >> > > > > > And, I can come up with a patch.
>> >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > > > > Thanks
>> >> > > > > > Luming 
>> >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > > >From: dev_zero
>> [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> >> > > > > > >Sent: 2004年11月10日 1:06
>> >> > > > > > >To: Yu, Luming
>> >> > > > > > >Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >When I try to output the event file I
>> do
>> >> > > this:
>> >> > > > > > >[root@balder: /proc/acpi]# cat event >
>> >> > > > > > /home/event.log
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >But then It just stands there without
>> >> doing
>> >> > > > > > anything.
>> >> > > > > > >So i tried to check what was wrong (ps
>> >> ax)
>> >> > > command:
>> >> > > > > > >2922 pts/0    S+     0:00 cat event
>> >> > > > > > >
>> 
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>

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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-11 15:32 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-11 15:56 ` dev_zero
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-11 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev_zero, Wang, Zhenyu Z; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

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Did you try the patches I sent you to narrow down the issue?

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>Sent: 2004年11月11日 23:26
>To: Wang, Zhenyu Z
>Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Yu, Luming
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>When I applied this patch.. I could play even longer
>than last time, before kacpid started running at 99%
>cpu usage. First I played longer than usual, then
>kacpid started running but not with 99% cpu usage,
>then it stopped. It went like this a couple of times
>then kacpid started with 99% cpu usage again.
>Don't know if the patch worked correctly, but I
>thought the kacpid should go S5, shutdown, shouldn't
>it?
>
> --- "Wang, Zhenyu" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com> wrote: 
>> copy these from acpi_thermal_remove, does this
>> workaround your issue?
>> 
>> ---
>> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>> 2004-11-10 23:38:51.000000000 +0800
>> +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c	2004-11-11
>> 09:19:57.365634568 +0800
>> @@ -472,6 +472,13 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>>  	printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature reached
>> (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>>  	acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>>  
>> +	tz->zombie = 1;
>> +	/* wait for running timer (on other CPUs) finish
>> */
>> +	del_timer_sync(&(tz->timer));
>> +	/* synchronize deferred task */
>> +	acpi_os_wait_events_complete(NULL);
>> +	/* deferred task may reinsert timer */
>> +	del_timer_sync(&(tz->timer));
>>  
>>
>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>>  
>>  	return_VALUE(0);
>> 
>> 
>> On 2004.11.10 18:09:45 +0000, dev_zero wrote:
>> > This patch actually made some difference. I could
>> play
>> > much longer now. First it started lagging, then it
>> > stopped, then it started lagging again, then it
>> > stopped. It went like this for a while, but after
>> I
>> > had played som more, it started lagging again but
>> now
>> > it didn't stop.
>> > 
>> >  --- "Wang, Zhenyu" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com>
>> wrote: 
>> > > oops,
>> > > 
>> > > ---
>> > >
>> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>> > > 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> > > +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c	2004-11-10
>> > > 23:52:40.820975856 +0800
>> > > @@ -472,6 +472,8 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> > >  	printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature
>> reached
>> > > (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> > > KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> > >  	acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> > > ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> > > tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> > >  
>> > > +	tz->zombie = 1;
>> > > +	acpi_os_wait_events_complete(NULL);
>> > >  
>> > >
>> >
>>
>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> > >  
>> > >  	return_VALUE(0);
>> > > 
>> > > If this has no help, maybe others eat up
>> kacpid..
>> > > 
>> > > On 2004.11.10 23:44:33 +0000, Wang, Zhenyu
>> wrote:
>> > > > Pls try this patch,
>> > > > 
>> > > > ---
>> > >
>> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work  
>> > > 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> > > > +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c    
>> 2004-11-10
>> > > 23:39:50.195128792 +0800
>> > > > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> > > >         printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical
>> temperature
>> > > reached (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> > > KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> > > >         acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> > > ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> > > tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> > > > 
>> > > > +       tz->zombie = 1;
>> > > >        
>> > >
>> >
>>
>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> > > > 
>> > > >         return_VALUE(0);
>> > > > 
>> > > > Is this work?
>> > > > 
>> > > > -zhen
>> > > > 
>> > > > On 2004.11.10 14:33:35 +0000, dev_zero wrote:
>> > > > > kacpid still runns with 99%cpu usage when
>> the
>> > > cpu gets
>> > > > > too hot. I tried the game quake 2. You can
>> play
>> > > around
>> > > > > 10 -15 minutes before the kacpid starts
>> running
>> > > on 99%
>> > > > > cpu usage. I also used quake 2 too test the
>> > > kernel
>> > > > > before I applied your patch.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >  --- "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com>
>> wrote: 
>> > > > > > It means there was NO event generated at
>> that
>> > > time.
>> > > > > > Do you think the symptom is gone with my
>> debug
>> > > > > > patch?
>> > > > > > If so, I think your box need a more sane
>> > > schedule
>> > > > > > for acpi_thermal_check 
>> > > > > > And, I can come up with a patch.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Luming 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> > > > > > >Sent: 2004年11月10日 1:06
>> > > > > > >To: Yu, Luming
>> > > > > > >Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >When I try to output the event file I do
>> > > this:
>> > > > > > >[root@balder: /proc/acpi]# cat event >
>> > > > > > /home/event.log
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >But then It just stands there without
>> doing
>> > > > > > anything.
>> > > > > > >So i tried to check what was wrong (ps
>> ax)
>> > > command:
>> > > > > > >2922 pts/0    S+     0:00 cat event
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >I don't know if it is supposed to be
>> > > suspended?
>> > > > > > >> I want to know what kind of events
>> could be
>> > > > > > >> generated heavily, which could have
>> > > corresponding
>> > > > > > >> pending execution of AML method issued
>> to
>> > > work
>> > > > > > queue
>> > > > > > >> handled by kacpid.  So just cat
>> > > /proc/acpi/event
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> event.log
>> > > > > > >> to me when you were observing abnormal 
>> cpu
>> > > > > > >> consumption by kacpid.  
>> > > > > > >> 
>> > > > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > > > >> Luming 
>> > > > > > >> 
>> > > > > > >> >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> >From: dev_zero
>> [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> > > > > > >> >Sent: 2004Äê11ÔÂ10ÈÕ 0:00
>> > > > > > >> >To: Yu, Luming
>> > > > > > >> >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >Of course.. But which log files do you
>> > > want to
>> > > > > > take
>> > > > > > >> a
>> > > > > > >> >look at?
>> > > > > > >> >> >How am i supppose to get an output
>> from
>> > > > > > >> >> >/proc/acpi/event ??? I can't access
>> the
>> > > file,
>> > > > > > >> >> because
>> > > > > > >> >> >it's in use.
>> > > > > > >> >> 
>> > > > > > >> >> Just kill acpid or the similar.
>> > > > > > >> >> 
>> > > > > > >> >> 
>> > > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> 
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-11 14:37 Yu, Luming
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-11 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev_zero, Wang, Zhenyu Z; +Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Did you try this?

I found a similar bug http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3686.

 please apply the following patches one by one, and see which patch 
could make the symptom disappear.

--- edited/drivers/acpi/ec.0    2004-11-11 00:01:30.000000000 +0800
+++ edited/drivers/acpi/ec.c    2004-11-11 00:03:13.000000000 +0800
@@ -395,9 +395,14 @@

        acpi_disable_gpe(NULL, ec->gpe_bit, ACPI_ISR);

+#if 0
        status = acpi_os_queue_for_execution(OSD_PRIORITY_GPE,
                acpi_ec_gpe_query, ec);

+#endif
+       status = AE_OK;
+
+
        if (status == AE_OK)
                return ACPI_INTERRUPT_HANDLED;
        else


--- edited/drivers/acpi/events/evgpe.c.1        2004-11-11 00:10:44.000000000 +0800
+++ edited/drivers/acpi/events/evgpe.c  2004-11-11 00:09:28.000000000 +0800
@@ -668,6 +668,7 @@
                 * Execute the method associated with the GPE
                 * NOTE: Level-triggered GPEs are cleared after the method completes.
                 */
+#if 0
                if (ACPI_FAILURE (acpi_os_queue_for_execution (OSD_PRIORITY_GPE,
                                 acpi_ev_asynch_execute_gpe_method,
                                 gpe_event_info))) {
@@ -675,6 +676,7 @@
                                "acpi_ev_gpe_dispatch: Unable to queue handler for GPE[%2X], event is disabled\n",
                                gpe_number));
                }
+#endif
                break;

        default:

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>Sent: 2004年11月11日 1:10
>To: Wang, Zhenyu Z
>Cc: Yu, Luming; acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>This patch actually made some difference. I could play
>much longer now. First it started lagging, then it
>stopped, then it started lagging again, then it
>stopped. It went like this for a while, but after I
>had played som more, it started lagging again but now
>it didn't stop.
>
> --- "Wang, Zhenyu" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com> wrote: 
>> oops,
>> 
>> ---
>> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work
>> 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c	2004-11-10
>> 23:52:40.820975856 +0800
>> @@ -472,6 +472,8 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>>  	printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature reached
>> (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>>  	acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>>  
>> +	tz->zombie = 1;
>> +	acpi_os_wait_events_complete(NULL);
>>  
>>
>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>>  
>>  	return_VALUE(0);
>> 
>> If this has no help, maybe others eat up kacpid..
>> 
>> On 2004.11.10 23:44:33 +0000, Wang, Zhenyu wrote:
>> > Pls try this patch,
>> > 
>> > ---
>> acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c~remove_queue_work  
>> 2004-11-10 23:38:51.693022464 +0800
>> > +++ acpi-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c     2004-11-10
>> 23:39:50.195128792 +0800
>> > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ acpi_thermal_critical (
>> >         printk(KERN_EMERG "Critical temperature
>> reached (%ld C), shutting down.\n",
>> KELVIN_TO_CELSIUS(tz->temperature));
>> >         acpi_bus_generate_event(device,
>> ACPI_THERMAL_NOTIFY_CRITICAL,
>> tz->trips.critical.flags.enabled);
>> > 
>> > +       tz->zombie = 1;
>> >        
>>
>acpi_thermal_call_usermode(ACPI_THERMAL_PATH_POWEROFF);
>> > 
>> >         return_VALUE(0);
>> > 
>> > Is this work?
>> > 
>> > -zhen
>> > 
>> > On 2004.11.10 14:33:35 +0000, dev_zero wrote:
>> > > kacpid still runns with 99%cpu usage when the
>> cpu gets
>> > > too hot. I tried the game quake 2. You can play
>> around
>> > > 10 -15 minutes before the kacpid starts running
>> on 99%
>> > > cpu usage. I also used quake 2 too test the
>> kernel
>> > > before I applied your patch.
>> > > 
>> > >  --- "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com> wrote: 
>> > > > It means there was NO event generated at that
>> time.
>> > > > Do you think the symptom is gone with my debug
>> > > > patch?
>> > > > If so, I think your box need a more sane
>> schedule
>> > > > for acpi_thermal_check 
>> > > > And, I can come up with a patch.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Luming 
>> > > > 
>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> > > > >Sent: 2004年11月10日 1:06
>> > > > >To: Yu, Luming
>> > > > >Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > > > >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> > > > >
>> > > > >When I try to output the event file I do
>> this:
>> > > > >[root@balder: /proc/acpi]# cat event >
>> > > > /home/event.log
>> > > > >
>> > > > >But then It just stands there without doing
>> > > > anything.
>> > > > >So i tried to check what was wrong (ps ax)
>> command:
>> > > > >2922 pts/0    S+     0:00 cat event
>> > > > >
>> > > > >I don't know if it is supposed to be
>> suspended?
>> > > > >> I want to know what kind of events could be
>> > > > >> generated heavily, which could have
>> corresponding
>> > > > >> pending execution of AML method issued to
>> work
>> > > > queue
>> > > > >> handled by kacpid.  So just cat
>> /proc/acpi/event
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> event.log
>> > > > >> to me when you were observing abnormal  cpu
>> > > > >> consumption by kacpid.  
>> > > > >> 
>> > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > >> Luming 
>> > > > >> 
>> > > > >> >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> > > > >> >Sent: 2004Äê11ÔÂ10ÈÕ 0:00
>> > > > >> >To: Yu, Luming
>> > > > >> >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >Of course.. But which log files do you
>> want to
>> > > > take
>> > > > >> a
>> > > > >> >look at?
>> > > > >> >> >How am i supppose to get an output from
>> > > > >> >> >/proc/acpi/event ??? I can't access the
>> file,
>> > > > >> >> because
>> > > > >> >> >it's in use.
>> > > > >> >> 
>> > > > >> >> Just kill acpid or the similar.
>> > > > >> >> 
>> > > > >> >> 
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >>
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-10 14:26 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-10 14:35 ` dev_zero
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-10 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

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Hmm... would you please cat /proc/interrupts to me.

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>Sent: 2004年11月10日 21:34
>To: Yu, Luming
>Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>kacpid still runns with 99%cpu usage when the cpu gets
>too hot. I tried the game quake 2. You can play around
>10 -15 minutes before the kacpid starts running on 99%
>cpu usage. I also used quake 2 too test the kernel
>before I applied your patch.
>
> --- "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com> wrote: 
>> It means there was NO event generated at that time.
>> Do you think the symptom is gone with my debug
>> patch?
>> If so, I think your box need a more sane schedule
>> for acpi_thermal_check 
>> And, I can come up with a patch.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Luming 
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> >Sent: 2004年11月10日 1:06
>> >To: Yu, Luming
>> >Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >
>> >When I try to output the event file I do this:
>> >[root@balder: /proc/acpi]# cat event >
>> /home/event.log
>> >
>> >But then It just stands there without doing
>> anything.
>> >So i tried to check what was wrong (ps ax) command:
>> >2922 pts/0    S+     0:00 cat event
>> >
>> >I don't know if it is supposed to be suspended?
>> >> I want to know what kind of events could be
>> >> generated heavily, which could have corresponding
>> >> pending execution of AML method issued to work
>> queue
>> >> handled by kacpid.  So just cat /proc/acpi/event
>> >
>> >> event.log
>> >> to me when you were observing abnormal  cpu
>> >> consumption by kacpid.  
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Luming 
>> >> 
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: dev_zero [mailto:dev_xor@yahoo.no] 
>> >> >Sent: 2004Äê11ÔÂ10ÈÕ 0:00
>> >> >To: Yu, Luming
>> >> >Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >> >
>> >> >Of course.. But which log files do you want to
>> take
>> >> a
>> >> >look at?
>> >> >> >How am i supppose to get an output from
>> >> >> >/proc/acpi/event ??? I can't access the file,
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> >it's in use.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Just kill acpid or the similar.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >>
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-09 15:50 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-09 16:15 ` dev_zero
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-09 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

>How am i supppose to get an output from
>/proc/acpi/event ??? I can't access the file, because
>it's in use.

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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-09  8:23 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-09 15:12 ` dev_zero
  2004-11-16  0:36 ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-09  8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
  Cc: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi

I suspect we need a sane check against sleep_time.
Please testing the following debug patch.

Also, please sent the output of the activity in /proc/acpi/event .

Thanks
Luming 

--- edited/drivers/acpi/thermal.c.orig  2004-11-09 16:45:43.000000000 +0800
+++ edited/drivers/acpi/thermal.c       2004-11-09 16:47:20.000000000 +0800
@@ -746,6 +746,8 @@
        ACPI_DEBUG_PRINT((ACPI_DB_INFO, "%s: temperature[%lu] sleep[%lu]\n",
                tz->name, tz->temperature, sleep_time));

+       sleep_time = 5000; /* 5 seconds */
+
        /*
         * Schedule Next Poll
         * ------------------


>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net 
>[mailto:acpi-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of dev_zero
>Sent: 2004年11月9日 4:42
>To: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: RE: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>You can download my DSDT table from my website or from
>this site:
>http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=224
>website: http://home.no.net/pusleole/#dsdt
>
>I get some double emails from this mailinglist. When
>you guys send me replys you send to my email and a CC
>to the mailinglist. Because of this I get some
>messages two times. When I send a reply to someone
>lets say luming.yu@intel.com, should I send both a
>reply to this email and a CC to the mailinglist, or
>should I send the reply to just the mailinglist?
>
>> I'd like to see your box's DSDT to have a idea of
>> what's going on in your box.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Luming 
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi [mailto:gcs@lsc.hu] 
>> >Sent: 2004Äê11ÔÂ8ÈÕ 11:18
>> >To: Yu, Luming
>> >Cc: dev_zero; acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>> >
>> >* Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi <gcs@lsc.hu> [2004-11-08
>> 03:48:59 +0100]:
>> >
>> >> > Could you verify if killing kacpid can make the
>> thing better?
>> >>  This just happened to me again. I did
>> /etc/init.d/acpid stop, and it
>> >> did, but issuing halt left me with the
>> acpi_power_off called message.
>> >> I think some memory corruption may happen in
>> kernel space, 
>> >or it is just
>> >> ACPI failing for some reason.
>> > OK, just happened again, so update: I did
>> /etc/init.d/acpid stop; but
>> >as I saw CPU usage went to half kernel space, half
>> user space. But(!)
>> >now I can confirm that kacpid with pid 5 stuck in a
>> D state, 
>> >tried to do
>> >something, but the box was so crawling that I chose
>> to pull 
>> >out the cord
>> >instead.
>> >
>> >HTH,
>> >Laszlo
>> >
>> >
>>  
>
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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-08  3:23 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-08 20:41 ` dev_zero
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-08  3:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
  Cc: dev_zero, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

I'd like to see your box's DSDT to have a idea of what's going on in your box.

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi [mailto:gcs-gKC9iF2I70U@public.gmane.org] 
>Sent: 2004年11月8日 11:18
>To: Yu, Luming
>Cc: dev_zero; acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: Re: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>* Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi <gcs-gKC9iF2I70U@public.gmane.org> [2004-11-08 03:48:59 +0100]:
>
>> > Could you verify if killing kacpid can make the thing better?
>>  This just happened to me again. I did /etc/init.d/acpid stop, and it
>> did, but issuing halt left me with the acpi_power_off called message.
>> I think some memory corruption may happen in kernel space, 
>or it is just
>> ACPI failing for some reason.
> OK, just happened again, so update: I did /etc/init.d/acpid stop; but
>as I saw CPU usage went to half kernel space, half user space. But(!)
>now I can confirm that kacpid with pid 5 stuck in a D state, 
>tried to do
>something, but the box was so crawling that I chose to pull 
>out the cord
>instead.
>
>HTH,
>Laszlo
>
>


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* RE: kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-08  1:58 Yu, Luming
  2004-11-08  2:48 ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Yu, Luming @ 2004-11-08  1:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev_zero, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Could you verify if killing kacpid can make the thing better?

Thanks
Luming 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org 
>[mailto:acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of dev_zero
>Sent: 2004年11月6日 7:39
>To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>Subject: [ACPI] kacpid problems
>
>Hello,
>
>My trip_points file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM looks like this:
>critical (S5):           85 C
>passive:                 70 C: tc1=5 tc2=3 tsp=256 devices=0xcdde39a8
>active[0]:               45 C: devices=0xcdd94c28
>
>The problem comes when I try to compile big programs, like 
>inkscape(vector drawing program) or when I play games. I think 
>this is a 
>bug, but I don't really know, because I'm not a acpi programmer.
>When my processor gets too hot, over 85 C it tries to 
>shutdown(S5), but 
>the only thing that happends is that kacpid starts running and runns 
>with 99% CPU usage.
>(taken from top)
>5 root       7 -10     0    0    0 R  99.0  0.0   0:17.94 kacpid
>
>Is it someone who knows what is wrong? Is it a bug or is it my 
>hardware 
>that is the problem?
>
>thanks in advance
>
>Jon Emil
>
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* kacpid problems
@ 2004-11-05 23:38 dev_zero
       [not found] ` <418C0EFA.6000001-eZNTXLQAfP4@public.gmane.org>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: dev_zero @ 2004-11-05 23:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Hello,

My trip_points file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM looks like this:
critical (S5):           85 C
passive:                 70 C: tc1=5 tc2=3 tsp=256 devices=0xcdde39a8
active[0]:               45 C: devices=0xcdd94c28

The problem comes when I try to compile big programs, like 
inkscape(vector drawing program) or when I play games. I think this is a 
bug, but I don't really know, because I'm not a acpi programmer.
When my processor gets too hot, over 85 C it tries to shutdown(S5), but 
the only thing that happends is that kacpid starts running and runns 
with 99% CPU usage.
(taken from top)
5 root       7 -10     0    0    0 R  99.0  0.0   0:17.94 kacpid

Is it someone who knows what is wrong? Is it a bug or is it my hardware 
that is the problem?

thanks in advance

Jon Emil


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2004-11-10 15:54         ` Wang, Zhenyu
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2004-11-10 17:09             ` dev_zero
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2004-11-11  1:22                 ` Wang, Zhenyu
     [not found]                   ` <20041111012228.GA18032-/VnEId6AORcBH7GVJk7YB9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2004-11-11 15:26                     ` dev_zero
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2004-11-16  3:29 Yu, Luming
2004-11-11 16:51 Yu, Luming
2004-11-11 16:57 ` dev_zero
2004-11-11 15:32 Yu, Luming
2004-11-11 15:56 ` dev_zero
2004-11-11 16:01 ` dev_zero
2004-11-11 16:37 ` dev_zero
2004-11-11 14:37 Yu, Luming
     [not found] <3ACA40606221794F80A5670F0AF15F84041AC04B@pdsmsx403>
2004-11-10 16:14 ` dev_zero
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2004-11-10 16:06 ` dev_zero
2004-11-10 16:11 ` dev_zero
     [not found] <3ACA40606221794F80A5670F0AF15F84041AC048@pdsmsx403>
2004-11-10 14:40 ` dev_zero
2004-11-10 14:50 ` dev_zero
2004-11-10 14:26 Yu, Luming
2004-11-10 14:35 ` dev_zero
     [not found] <3ACA40606221794F80A5670F0AF15F84041AC042@pdsmsx403>
2004-11-09 17:06 ` dev_zero
2004-11-09 15:50 Yu, Luming
2004-11-09 16:15 ` dev_zero
2004-11-09  8:23 Yu, Luming
2004-11-09 15:12 ` dev_zero
     [not found]   ` <20041109151244.94397.qmail-Njb8tMpsuHHGRxTy+Q50vsz6deESKz/lQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2004-11-09 15:45     ` Andrew Barr
2004-11-16  0:36 ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
2004-11-08  3:23 Yu, Luming
2004-11-08 20:41 ` dev_zero
2004-11-08  1:58 Yu, Luming
2004-11-08  2:48 ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
2004-11-08  3:18   ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
2004-11-05 23:38 dev_zero
     [not found] ` <418C0EFA.6000001-eZNTXLQAfP4@public.gmane.org>
2004-11-06  2:02   ` Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi
2004-11-06 12:58     ` dev_zero

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