From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: Call for help: list of machines with working S3 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:42:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20050217204247.GA2386@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20050214211105.GA12808@elf.ucw.cz> <1108621005.2096.412.camel@d845pe> <1108638021.4085.143.camel@tyrosine> <4214C3B8.30502@gmx.net> <20050217195456.GA5963@openzaurus.ucw.cz> <4214FFCE.4080703@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4214FFCE.4080703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org> Sender: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Errors-To: acpi-devel-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger Cc: Matthew Garrett , Len Brown , ACPI mailing list , Kernel Mailing List , seife-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org, rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Hi! > >>4. Include a mandantory description of video bringup after resume > > > > That sounds overcomplicated. Simply add this to the specs: > > You have to start to think like a vendor with a long legacy. Then my > spec draft will make more sense. Basically, you can't tell a vendor > that his hardware is broken or he will ignore your efforts from that > point on. "It's a question of honour." If, on the other hand, a > vendor can claim his products are conforming to the spec by issuing > a software update for broken hardware, it is much more likely that > the spec gets accepted. Well, whether you POST video or not is still only software... anyway... Your _WAK idea could work for notebooks (but if you did it in _WAK you'd break windows, so you'd have to call it _VWK (VideoWaK) or something), but for desktop where user can plug in any video card he buys... I do not see how you can get away with something other than normal POST. > > BIOS must do that during normal boot; this should be very little > > additional work. > > Not necessarily. Some BIOSes stay in graphics mode during the whole > bootup (at least it seems so) and would have to include additional > code to enter 80x25 text mode. ??? When grub is launched, you are in 80x25 text mode. Pavel -- People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers... ...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl! ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click