* Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <b6d0f5fb0505220425146d481a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2005-07-26 19:44 ` Len Brown [not found] ` <1122407079.13241.4.camel-g3qfMnKXm6m1ouK1UO9oVVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Len Brown @ 2005-07-26 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Cameron Harris Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 07:25 -0400, Cameron Harris wrote: > I just upgraded from 2.6.11.3 and now my /proc/acpi/button directory > doesn't exist... I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, did you have a use for those files? Note that over time everything in /proc/acpi is going away. In this case, there didn't seem to be a case for making appear in /sys. thanks, -Len ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <1122407079.13241.4.camel-g3qfMnKXm6m1ouK1UO9oVVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> @ 2005-07-26 19:55 ` Matthew Garrett [not found] ` <E1DxVWb-0002Sx-00-QGMSyCZBOSwv4zxTlrOuLwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> 2005-07-26 20:03 ` Pavel Troller 2005-07-27 23:09 ` Andrew Morton 2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Matthew Garrett @ 2005-07-26 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Len Brown Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, > did you have a use for those files? There are various cases where it's useful to know whether a laptop is shut or not, and /proc/acpi/button seems to be the only place where that information is made available at the moment. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59-chiark.mail.linux-rutgers.kernel-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <E1DxVWb-0002Sx-00-QGMSyCZBOSwv4zxTlrOuLwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> @ 2005-07-27 9:40 ` Ow Mun Heng 2005-07-27 21:18 ` Pavel Machek 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ow Mun Heng @ 2005-07-27 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Acpi-List On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 20:55 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, > > did you have a use for those files? > > There are various cases where it's useful to know whether a laptop is > shut or not, and /proc/acpi/button seems to be the only place where that > information is made available at the moment. I agree. Why was it deleted in the first place? In any case, please make them appear in /sys I'm sure there are more people who uses it. :-) -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:39:22 up 3 days, 23:51, 6 users, load average: 1.22, 0.83, 0.90 ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <E1DxVWb-0002Sx-00-QGMSyCZBOSwv4zxTlrOuLwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> 2005-07-27 9:40 ` Ow Mun Heng @ 2005-07-27 21:18 ` Pavel Machek 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pavel Machek @ 2005-07-27 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Len Brown, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA Hi! > Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, > > did you have a use for those files? > > There are various cases where it's useful to know whether a laptop is > shut or not, and /proc/acpi/button seems to be the only place where that > information is made available at the moment. > Unless it was in obsolete-feature-removal file for a year.... changing userspace interface is bad idea in the middle of stable series. Pavel -- 64 bytes from 195.113.31.123: icmp_seq=28 ttl=51 time=448769.1 ms ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <1122407079.13241.4.camel-g3qfMnKXm6m1ouK1UO9oVVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 2005-07-26 19:55 ` Matthew Garrett @ 2005-07-26 20:03 ` Pavel Troller 2005-07-27 23:09 ` Andrew Morton 2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pavel Troller @ 2005-07-26 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Len Brown Cc: Cameron Harris, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA > I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, > did you have a use for those files? > Hi Len! I already wrote 2 mails that I have use for the LID switch status file and that I don't know how to handle its absence. However, they seem to be dropped on the floor somewhere :-). BTW I have written a small C program which uses dev_acpi module and evaluates an object, which I'm using to evaluade the _LID method, thus reading the status of the switch. However, I think that this should be done by the kernel. So at least, if the buttons allow to read their status, I'm voting for keeping the possibility to read it. With regards, Pavel Troller ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 [not found] ` <1122407079.13241.4.camel-g3qfMnKXm6m1ouK1UO9oVVDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org> 2005-07-26 19:55 ` Matthew Garrett 2005-07-26 20:03 ` Pavel Troller @ 2005-07-27 23:09 ` Andrew Morton 2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Andrew Morton @ 2005-07-27 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Len Brown Cc: thecwin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 07:25 -0400, Cameron Harris wrote: > > I just upgraded from 2.6.11.3 and now my /proc/acpi/button directory > > doesn't exist... > > I deleted /proc/acpi/button on purpose, > did you have a use for those files? Can we put it back, please? > Note that over time everything in /proc/acpi is > going away. In this case, there didn't seem to be > a case for making appear in /sys. That'll be hard. I guess we could add the new /sys entries, make sure that userspace tool developers have migrated and then remove the /proc entries in a year or so. We cannot go ripping out stuff which applications and users are currently using without quite a lot of preparation. ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: ACPI buttons in 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 @ 2005-07-27 20:49 Brown, Len 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Brown, Len @ 2005-07-27 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pavel Troller Cc: Cameron Harris, acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA I agree that the value of _LID can be usefult to user-space and I'll be sure it is restored as a property of the lid device under sysfs -- available as a simple file read like it was under /proc. thanks, -Len ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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