Re: Re: [patch 11/18] pnpacpi: reject ACPI_PRODUCER resources

Uwe Bugla
2006-06-27T14:19:07Z

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Datum: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:02:26 +0200
Von: castet.matthieu@free.fr
An: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Betreff: Re: [patch 11/18] pnpacpi: reject ACPI_PRODUCER resources

> Selon Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>:
>
> >
> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c4bb6f5ad968540d7f9619565bacd18d7419b85f
> > Thanks and sorry I didn't find the issue before. We'd better blacklist
> > root bridge. I saw at lest one BIOS (IA64 box) didn't assign correct
> > producer/consumer flag to root bridge resources. Blacklist it is much
> > safer.
>
> Is only PNP0A03 is producer type in __all__ ACPI possible devices ?
> If not we will have the same problem with others devices...
>
> I don't think blacklist is the solution : pnpacpi should be able to handle
> all
> ressources types : we should complete the implementation instead of
> blacklist
> devices our implementation doesn't support.
>
> If there are broken ACPI bios, there should be firmware update, a patched
> dsdt
> or a quirk, but no "quirk and no generic solution".
>
> To be honest I am bored about this acpi stuff : there are no reply when
> you ask
> questions or propose things, it takes months to have a patch, there are
> lot's
> of broken ACPI bios, ...
>
> For example http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358 I submited 1,5
> years
> ago is still present in the kernel...
>
>
> Matthieu CASTET
>
> --------
>
> "The fact that ACPI was designed by a group of monkeys high on LSD, and is
> some
> of the worst designs in the industry obviously makes running it at _any_
> point
> pretty damn ugly. " (July 31, 2005) Linus Torvalds

Salut Matthieu, hi everybody else wanting to listen,
A thousand Thanks for:
a. your excellent work in doing this patch. I did not test mm3 right now, but I swear I will do that as soosn as possible.
b. this very good citation from Linus hitting it to the point very exactly (Is the Microsoft team meant by those acid trip monkeys??? I simply do not know who the fuck invented this rubbish!).
"To be honest I am bored about this acpi stuff : there are no reply when
you ask questions or propose things, it takes months to have a patch, there are lot's of broken ACPI bios, ..."
But you do not mean me personally, do you? I spent couples of days on this sucking shit NOT to "fight down" anything or anybody (like Bjorn stated), but to help finding a solution in this very sucking issue.
As a cross-platform solution is appreciated I understand your exhaust and frustration very well. Blacklisting is NO good solution at all, is it?

Furthermore I really dislike those abbreviations like "NAK", "IMHO" etc.
And I´d like to repeat my proposal:
This stuff should NOT be in the mm-branch, but in a RC-candidate of the main vanilla: There would be much more traffic on this issue and a significant higher motivation for resolving that so that everyone is satisfied. But Andrew will never agree on this, will he ever?

Cheers everybody, just smile now

Uwe

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