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From: Mark Underwood <basicmark@yahoo.com>
To: Shem Multinymous <multinymous@gmail.com>,
	"Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Cc: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Generic battery interface
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:37:07 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060729103707.26737.qmail@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41840b750607290248r5999d1fen41f9d3044d385857@mail.gmail.com>


--- Shem Multinymous <multinymous@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/29/06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:10:40 +0300, Shem Multinymous said:
> > > On 7/28/06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> > > > Is there a reliable (or hack-worthy) way for the kernel to determine how
> > > > often the values are re-posted by the hardware?
> > >
> > > That's hardware-specific. Some drivers can know, others may just
> > > assume 1sec or 0.1sec or whatever.
> >
> > That smells suspiciously like "We need an API for the hardware-specific
> > bits f code to pass the generic bits a value for this..." (and the
> > hardware-specific part can either ask the battery, or return a
> > hard-coded "10 seconds" that somebody measured, or whatever)....
> 
> I don't think "update frequency" is a good abstraction. The hardware's
> update may not be variable and irrregular (e.g., event-based), and
> there's there's an issue of phase sync to avoid unnecessary latency.
> 
> The lazy polling approach I described in my last post to Vojtech
> ("block until there's  a new readout or N milliseconds have passed,
> whichever is later") looks like a more general, accurate and efficient
> interface.
> 

This sounds like a good idea. You could do a similar thing using sysfs by
providing a entry in sysfs which tells userland when the next update is going
to happen, the userland app can then decide to use this as it's next poll time
or not.

Mark

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-29 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-27 20:06 Generic battery interface Brown, Len
2006-07-27 20:32 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 23:24   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28  0:27     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28  0:36       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-28  7:42       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 12:25         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-28 13:43           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 15:38             ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 15:57               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-28 22:10                 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 23:14                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-29  9:48                     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 10:17                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-29 10:30                         ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 10:37                       ` Mark Underwood [this message]
2006-07-29 11:35                         ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30  8:35                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-30 11:44                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-30 11:48                         ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-31  0:58                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-31  1:34                             ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30  9:18             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 10:14               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30 11:33                 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 12:25         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-07-28 13:44           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 15:19           ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 16:10             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-07-30  8:55               ` Greg KH
2006-07-30  9:52                 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30 11:47                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-30 12:50                     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30 11:46                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 15:14         ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 20:23           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 22:48             ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 23:17               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 10:36               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-29 11:32                 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 12:04                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-29 12:51                     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 13:42                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-30  9:00                         ` Greg KH
2006-07-29 21:06               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30 10:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 10:34                   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-30 10:37                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 18:37                 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-31 21:35                   ` Jean Delvare
2006-07-31 22:34                     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-31 23:01                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-02  7:18                       ` Jean Delvare
2006-08-02  7:46                         ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-08-03 11:29                         ` Thomas Renninger
2006-08-03 16:33                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <20060731113735.GA22081@creature.apm.etc.tu-bs.de>
     [not found]                     ` <41840b750607310818j7ab2dcddpcb7a14b9a8f10871@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20060731183719.GB22081@creature.apm.etc.tu-bs.de>
2006-07-31 22:45                         ` [ltp] " Shem Multinymous
     [not found]                           ` <20060801114303.GA13000@creature.apm.etc.tu-bs.de>
2006-08-02 21:59                             ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 22:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 22:56   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 23:08     ` Greg KH
2006-07-27 23:24       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 12:29         ` Jean Delvare
2006-08-02 19:51           ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-03  9:20             ` Jean Delvare
2006-07-27 22:56   ` Greg KH
2006-07-27 23:31   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28  0:35     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 10:11       ` Vojtech Pavlik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-28  4:05 Brown, Len
2006-07-28  8:22 ` Johan Vromans
2006-07-28  9:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-28 10:10   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-28 12:21 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-28 14:13 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 23:20 Brown, Len
2006-07-28  0:10 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 15:40 Brown, Len
2006-07-27 16:23 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 16:50   ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-07-27 20:07     ` Shem Multinymous

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