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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.18-rc4 (and earlier): CMOS clock corruption during suspend to disk on i386
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:33:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060813223354.GF6231@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608102251.20707.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thu 2006-08-10 22:51:20, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thursday 10 August 2006 14:15, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 August 2006 02:12, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > > > > > It looks like the CMOS clock gets corrupted during the suspend to disk
> > > > > > > > on i386.  I've observed this on 2 different boxes.  Moreover, one of them is
> > > > > > > > AMD64-based and the x86_64 kernel doesn't have this problem on it.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Also, I've done some tests that indicate the corruption doesn't occur before
> > > > > > > > saving the suspend image.  It rather happens when the box is powered off
> > > > > > > > or rebooted (tested both cases).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, I have no more time to debug it further right now.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Do you have Linus' "please corrupt my cmos for debuggin" hack enabled?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, I know nothing about that. ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > CONFIG_PM_TRACE=y will scrog your CMOS clock each time you suspend.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh dear.  Of course it's set in my .config.  Thanks a lot for this hint. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, it's a dangerous setting, because some drivers get mad if the time after
> > > > the resume appears to be earlier than the time before the suspend.  Also the
> > > > timer .suspend/.resume routines aren't prepared for that.
> > > 
> > > Its config option should just go away. People comfortable using *that*
> > > should just edit some header file. Rafael, could you do patch doing
> > > something like that?
> > 
> > Just remove the option from Kconfig or the whole setting?
> > 
> > Shouldn't we also change the timer .resume() routines to check if the time
> > after the resume is later than (or at least the same as) the time before the
> > suspend and set the "sleep length" to 0 if not?
> 
> Hm, I'm thinking it may actually be useful to have in Kconfig and if we change
> the timer resume to detect the dangerous situation and prevent it from
> happening, that should be sufficient.

Well, it is still too easy to shoot yourself in the foot. Your time
will be wrong if you enable innocent-sounding option.
							Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-13 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-09 12:26 2.6.18-rc4 (and earlier): CMOS clock corruption during suspend to disk on i386 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-09 12:30 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09 20:01   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-09 20:12     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-09 20:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-10  0:12         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-10 12:15           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-10 20:51             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-12 19:08               ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-08-12 19:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-13 22:33               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-08-14  8:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-13 22:33             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09 17:44 ` john stultz
2006-08-09 20:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-09 20:13     ` john stultz

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