From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
To: jg@laptop.org
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
ACPI ML <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Adam Belay <abelay@novell.com>,
"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
devel@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [OLPC-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] ACPI: Idle Processor PM Improvements
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:53:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608312353.05337.len.brown@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157070616.7974.232.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Thursday 31 August 2006 20:30, Jim Gettys wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 17:13 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 August 2006 13:43, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > That would be helpful. For the One Laptop Per Child project (or whatever
> > > it's called today), it would be advantageous to run without acpi.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, what is the motivation for running without acpi?
> > It costs a lot to diverge from the mainstream in areas like that,
> > so there must be a big payoff. But maybe if OLPC depends on acpi
> > being smarter about power or code size or whatever, those improvements
> > could be made and everybody would benefit.
>
> Good question; I see Matthew beat me to part of the explanation, but
> here is more detail:
I recommended that the OLPC guys not use ACPI.
I do not think it would benefit their system. Although it is an i386
instruction set, their system is more like an embedded device than
like a traditional laptop.
The Geode doesn't suport any C-states -- so ACPI wouldn't help them there anyway.
As Jim wrote, OLPC plans to suspend-to-ram from idle, and to keep video running,
so ACPI wouldn't help them on that either.
Re: optimizing suspend/resume speed
I expect suspend/resume speed has more to do with devices than with ACPI.
But frankly, with gaping functionality holes in Linux suspend/resume support such as
IDE and SATA, I think that optimizing for suspend/resume speed on a mainstream laptop
is somewhat "forward looking".
-Len
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-01 3:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-30 18:40 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] ACPI: Idle Processor PM Improvements Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2006-08-30 19:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-08-31 23:13 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-08-31 23:27 ` [OLPC-devel] " Matthew Garrett
2006-09-01 0:30 ` Jim Gettys
2006-09-01 3:53 ` Len Brown [this message]
2006-09-01 4:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-09-01 15:51 ` Jordan Crouse
2006-09-01 13:14 ` [OLPC-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-09-01 21:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-01 22:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-04 13:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-05 14:31 ` Jim Gettys
2006-09-06 10:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-06 14:58 ` Jordan Crouse
2006-09-12 9:21 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 18:14 ` Jim Gettys
2006-09-12 18:27 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-09-12 20:18 ` Jordan Crouse
2006-09-14 9:20 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 9:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 11:29 ` Jim Gettys
2006-09-06 15:19 ` [OLPC-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] " Jim Gettys
2006-09-12 9:21 ` Pavel Machek
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