From: Holger Macht <hmacht-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Kristen Carlson Accardi
<kristen.c.accardi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>,
Tejun Heo <htejun-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
<hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>,
Len Brown <lenb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
ibm-acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
linux-ide-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_IBM_BAY
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:16:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070320161636.GC6079@homac2.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070320160707.GB6079-tB0uoaAy/Z1bpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
On Tue 20. Mar - 17:07:07, Holger Macht wrote:
> On Mon 19. Mar - 11:11:09, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:37:46 +0100
> > Holger Macht <hmacht-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure. What actually bothers me is that in its current state, the dock
> > > station driver signals 'green' on the dock station as soon as the user
> > > presses the hardware undock button, but regardlessly of anything else. I
> > > think it would be ok to let the ACPI undock event up to userspace because
> > > in many situations it knows best when it is save to undock.
> >
> > I disagree - as I mentioned, not all laptops actually let you (userspace)
> > control the undock process because they don't lock. The dock driver
> > does notify user space of an undock, before it actually undocks:
>
> Yes, I know that, but userspace won't have enough time to interact with
> the user in this case. I just imagine having an external disk connected to
> the usb port of the docking station. In the moment the user undocks, his
> unsynced or unwritten data is lost because the usb port gets
> disconnected. The user needs the knowledge to actually "save remove" the
> external disk before he undocks. You are right, this won't help in case
> the dock station has no indication when it is "safe" to undock.
This mail was accidentially sent a little bit too early ;-)
What I wanted to add is just that with letting it up to userspace, it
would also work in all cases, with or without lock, it would just give
userspace more possibilities and might be more convenient for those
systems where the dock station locks the machine. But I clearly see the
advantage of not needing a userspace helper and for getting this docking
thing to work in 99% of all cases ;-)
Regards,
Holger
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-20 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-12 0:20 [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi changes acpi-test/2.6.22 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: kill trailing whitespace Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <11736588493322-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: rename some identifiers Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <11736588491476-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: add header file Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <11736588493502-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: organize code Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: update copyright notice Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12 0:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: update documentation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12 0:54 ` [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi changes acpi-test/2.6.22 Len Brown
2007-03-12 1:27 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 3:10 ` [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi move to drivers/misc Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 3:12 ` [PATCH] ACPI: ibm-acpi: move driver to drivers/misc hierarchy Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 6:06 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Len Brown
2007-03-15 13:39 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 15:06 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-15 17:55 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 18:01 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
[not found] ` <20070315110156.09e80b99.kristen.c.accardi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-15 19:31 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 19:50 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-18 5:38 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Tejun Heo
2007-03-18 8:27 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-18 18:36 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-18 18:55 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-18 19:00 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 18:04 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 15:53 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-20 16:19 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
[not found] ` <20070320091932.f61bbdcc.kristen.c.accardi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:34 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-19 18:17 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 0:07 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070320000706.GE5932-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:14 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-19 13:22 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070319132243.GA2869-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 13:48 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-19 14:04 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Matthew Garrett
2007-03-19 14:37 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
[not found] ` <20070319143746.GC4885-tB0uoaAy/Z1bpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 18:11 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-19 23:11 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 23:56 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 0:12 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 16:11 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 16:07 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
[not found] ` <20070320160707.GB6079-tB0uoaAy/Z1bpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:16 ` Holger Macht [this message]
[not found] ` <20070319140403.GA3697-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 15:36 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 15:47 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
[not found] ` <20070319153659.GB15942-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 16:41 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
[not found] ` <41840b750703190941p77fc4a64k49361b678dd6aa90-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 23:04 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 14:18 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
2007-03-20 15:12 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 18:00 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
[not found] ` <45FCD062.3050001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-18 18:26 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 20:31 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
2007-03-15 20:49 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 12:04 ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-19 23:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 14:57 ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-20 15:14 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 18:45 ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-20 20:25 ` Shem Multinymous
[not found] ` <20070320184541.GB29493-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 20:44 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 18:22 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-15 19:33 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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