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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:45:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070320184541.GB29493@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070320151443.GB13042@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:14:43PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Maybe, but then the suspend mail have to fail if there are processes
> > that are keeping the filesystem from being unmounted.  Or the
> 
> Yes. But this is standard functionality on the suspend path, anyway.

The problem with this is that some users will hit the suspend button,
close the lid, put the laptop into their laptop bag, and then
immediately head off to the next conference talk (or whatever).  If
the suspend is going to fail, they might not notice, and they might
not swap out the bay in any case.  

> > processes hanging out on the hard drive or CD-ROM could get all of
> > their file descriptors revoked on resume, I suppose, if the bay has
> > been switched out.....
> 
> Urk.  It is better to either fail the suspend, or to not power down the bay.
> Or to give the user a choice of which he'd rather happen.  Hmm...

Yeah, I think it needs to be configurable.  In many cases the right
thing to do is for the user to promise not to swap out bay, and in the
exception case where they do, all of the processes that have files
open on that bay will have to get their fd's revoked.  We can try to
make it less likely for there to be data loss, like asking filesystems
that support write_super_lockfs() to quiesce the filesystem before the
suspend, but the assumption should be that users aren't supposed to be
swapping out the bay if they request the suspend code not to
disconnect the filesystem.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-20 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-12  0:20 [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi changes acpi-test/2.6.22 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12  0:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: kill trailing whitespace Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]   ` <11736588493322-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12  0:20     ` [PATCH 2/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: rename some identifiers Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]       ` <11736588491476-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12  0:20         ` [PATCH 3/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: add header file Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]           ` <11736588493502-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-12  0:20             ` [PATCH 4/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: organize code Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12  0:20               ` [PATCH 5/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: update copyright notice Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12  0:20                 ` [PATCH 6/6] ACPI: ibm-acpi: update documentation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-12  0:54 ` [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi changes acpi-test/2.6.22 Len Brown
2007-03-12  1:27   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15  3:10     ` [GIT PULL] ibm-acpi move to drivers/misc Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15  3:12       ` [PATCH] ACPI: ibm-acpi: move driver to drivers/misc hierarchy Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15  6:06         ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Len Brown
2007-03-15 13:39           ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 15:06             ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-15 17:55               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 18:01                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
     [not found]                   ` <20070315110156.09e80b99.kristen.c.accardi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-15 19:31                     ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 19:50                       ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-18  5:38                         ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Tejun Heo
2007-03-18  8:27                           ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-18 18:36                             ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-18 18:55                               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-18 19:00                                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 18:04                                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 15:53                                   ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-20 16:19                                     ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
     [not found]                                       ` <20070320091932.f61bbdcc.kristen.c.accardi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:34                                         ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-19 18:17                               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20  0:07                                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                                   ` <20070320000706.GE5932-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:14                                     ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-19 13:22                             ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                               ` <20070319132243.GA2869-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 13:48                                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
2007-03-19 14:04                                   ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Matthew Garrett
2007-03-19 14:37                                     ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
     [not found]                                       ` <20070319143746.GC4885-tB0uoaAy/Z1bpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 18:11                                         ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-19 23:11                                           ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 23:56                                             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20  0:12                                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 16:11                                                 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-20 16:07                                           ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
     [not found]                                             ` <20070320160707.GB6079-tB0uoaAy/Z1bpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 16:16                                               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
     [not found]                                     ` <20070319140403.GA3697-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 15:36                                       ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 15:47                                         ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Holger Macht
     [not found]                                         ` <20070319153659.GB15942-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 16:41                                           ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
     [not found]                                             ` <41840b750703190941p77fc4a64k49361b678dd6aa90-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-19 23:04                                               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 14:18                                                 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
2007-03-20 15:12                                                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 18:00                               ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
     [not found]                           ` <45FCD062.3050001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-18 18:26                             ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 20:31                       ` [ibm-acpi-devel] CONFIG_IBM_BAY Shem Multinymous
2007-03-15 20:49                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-19 12:04                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-19 23:24                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 14:57                           ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-20 15:14                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-20 18:45                               ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-03-20 20:25                                 ` Shem Multinymous
     [not found]                                 ` <20070320184541.GB29493-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2007-03-20 20:44                                   ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-15 18:22                 ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-03-15 19:33                   ` CONFIG_IBM_BAY Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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